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Re: Open relays and open proxies
From: Brian Wallingford <brian () meganet net>
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 10:20:41 -0400 (EDT)
On Fri, 25 Apr 2003, Jack Bates wrote: : :Christopher J. Wolff wrote: :> :> Therefore, am I just as 'guilty' if I host A.B.C. Homes website, if they :> choose to advertise new homes in this clearly illegal manner? The :> A-Frame signs are a nuisance and use up professional time to remove, :> just like spam. :> :> There has to be a line drawn somewhere, wouldn't you think? :> : :A) many spam emails use html links to pull graphics from the :spamvertised site. By continuing to let the site run, even more :bandwidth is being utilized (especially with todays broken MUAs). : :B) most spammers make their money using their websites and not the spam :itself. So long as the website exists, there will be a way for the :spammer to propogate spam. Remember, it doesn't matter if the emailing :account gets cancelled. Once the damage is done, the spammer can sit :back and collect revenue via the website that was just adverted. :However, if you cancel the website, the company ceases to generate :revenue from the spam and is effectly shut down until they can bring the :website back up *and* generate another spam run. : :C) there are rarely good real world analogies for problems that exist on :the 'net. Not only does the 'net afford us speed and convenience in our :ability to communicate, it also allows for abuse to be at increased :speeds, volume and convenience. If different A-frame signs showed up :each and every day in large quantities throughout the city, the city :would not just confiscate the signs. They would file charges, and if the :owner of the real estate is aware of such activity, the owner would be :held liable, or city ordinances would be changed to allow the owner to :be held liable. As much as I'd normally hate to append an example, the following is a real gem.
Current thread:
- Re: Open relays and open proxies, (continued)
- Re: Open relays and open proxies Roland Verlander (Apr 25)
- Re: Open relays and open proxies Paul Wouters (Apr 25)
- Re: Open relays and open proxies Jack Bates (Apr 25)
- Re: Open relays and open proxies Paul Vixie (Apr 25)
- Re: Open relays and open proxies Jack Bates (Apr 25)
- RE: Open relays and open proxies Christopher J. Wolff (Apr 25)
- Re: Open relays and open proxies Jack Bates (Apr 25)
- Re: Open relays and open proxies Daniel Senie (Apr 25)
- RE: Open relays and open proxies Christopher J. Wolff (Apr 25)
- Re: Open relays and open proxies Jack Bates (Apr 25)
- Re: Open relays and open proxies Brian Wallingford (Apr 25)
- Re: Open relays and open proxies Joe Abley (Apr 25)
- Re: Open relays and open proxies Jack Bates (Apr 25)
- Re: Open relays and open proxies John Payne (Apr 25)
- Re: Open relays and open proxies Joe Abley (Apr 25)
- Re: Open relays and open proxies Tim Wilde (Apr 25)
- Re: Open relays and open proxies JC Dill (Apr 25)
- Re: Open relays and open proxies John Payne (Apr 25)
- Re: Open relays and open proxies Joe Abley (Apr 25)
- Re: Open relays and open proxies Niels Bakker (Apr 25)
- Re: Open relays and open proxies Curtis Maurand (Apr 25)