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Re: Arbor Networks DoS defense product
From: Dan Hollis <goemon () anime net>
Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 14:10:54 -0700 (PDT)
On Wed, 15 May 2002, Rob Thomas wrote:
] scanning would quickly become self defeating as attackers would only ] manage to cut themselves off from the net. To some degree, yes. Most of the miscreants are clueful enough not to scan from their home machines.
I disagree. They have to start somewhere. Most miscreants first attack offshore hosts, then use those to attack domestic victims.
The end result is a lot of hacked hosts are black holed.
And this is a bad thing?
On one hand you could say "serves 'em right for being hacked!" On the other hand, you could wonder why it is that the non-geek broadband users must be system, network, and firewall administrators.
They don't. This is purely a response to rogue networks/blackhats and apathetic/irresponsible/toothless NOCs. -Dan -- [-] Omae no subete no kichi wa ore no mono da. [-]
Current thread:
- Re: Arbor Networks DoS defense product, (continued)
- Re: Arbor Networks DoS defense product Pete Kruckenberg (May 14)
- Re: Arbor Networks DoS defense product Rubens Kuhl Jr. (May 14)
- Re: Arbor Networks DoS defense product Pete Kruckenberg (May 14)
- Re: Arbor Networks DoS defense product Richard A Steenbergen (May 15)
- Re: Arbor Networks DoS defense product Pete Kruckenberg (May 15)
- Re: Arbor Networks DoS defense product Rob Thomas (May 15)
- Re: Arbor Networks DoS defense product Dan Hollis (May 15)
- Re: Arbor Networks DoS defense product Rob Thomas (May 15)
- Re: Arbor Networks DoS defense product Dan Hollis (May 15)
- Re: Arbor Networks DoS defense product Rob Thomas (May 15)
- Re: Arbor Networks DoS defense product Dan Hollis (May 15)
- Re: Arbor Networks DoS defense product Rafi Sadowsky (May 15)
- Re: Arbor Networks DoS defense product Rubens Kuhl Jr. (May 14)
- Re: Arbor Networks DoS defense product Pete Kruckenberg (May 14)
- Re: Arbor Networks DoS defense product Rob Thomas (May 15)
- Re: Arbor Networks DoS defense product Johannes B. Ullrich (May 15)
- Re: Arbor Networks DoS defense product Rob Thomas (May 15)
- Re: Arbor Networks DoS defense product Dan Hollis (May 15)