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RE: $400 million network upgrade for the Pentagon
From: Scott Granados <scott () graphidelix net>
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 19:10:14 -0700 (PDT)
Actually, yes you do block all cell phones and transmissions in these facilities. I'm not sure if you have ever been in one but having cell phone access is simply not a concern. Neither is much open comunication. They are however smaller locked down rooms you would never lock down the entire pentagon that way. I read earlier a point about buffer zones or distance between the building and outside world and this quite common. Many times as well these external areas contain electronic counter measures. Classified environments are very different and have an entirely different set of requirements. On Thu, 15 Aug 2002, Brad Knowles wrote:
At 1:09 PM -0700 2002/08/14, Scott Granados wrote:As I recall and definitely don't quote me on this:) but there are also grids of wires in the walls which release broadspectrum noise electronic noise for jamming small transmitters.I'm sure that they have all sorts of methods. On the other hand, cellphones make devilishly difficult "bugs" to eliminate, especially the ones that are capable of automatically answering the call and activating the microphone without any audible ring. You can't just block all cellphones, because many people carry pagers that work on the same frequencies, and many people carry cellphones that they depend on.It also strikes me that the pentagon is not going to have many interesting conversations in there not nearly as interesting as some other locations I won't list here.Oh, I don't know. There are the briefing rooms with direct links to the whitehouse and other facilities. There's the NMCC itself, as well as the OSD-CC (which had even tighter security than I ever saw in the NMCC). During Desert Shield/Desert Storm, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs had a regularly scheduled morning briefing every day, and it always started right on time and occasionally ran a little over. Since I'm sure that the Chairman still has an office in the building, there are probably similar things that continue to occur today. OTOH, there are definitely other places that probably have much more sensitive conversations that frequently go on.
Current thread:
- Re: $400 million network upgrade for the Pentagon, (continued)
- Re: $400 million network upgrade for the Pentagon Brad Knowles (Aug 14)
- Internet outage reporting databases (was Re: $400 million network upgrade for the Pentagon) Sean Donelan (Aug 14)
- Re: Internet outage reporting databases (was Re: $400 million network upgrade for the Pentagon) Aaron Hopkins (Aug 14)
- Re: Internet outage reporting databases (was Re: $400 million network upgrade for the Pentagon) Scott Granados (Aug 14)
- Re: Internet outage reporting databases (was Re: $400 million network upgrade for the Pentagon) Avleen Vig (Aug 14)
- RE: $400 million network upgrade for the Pentagon Al Rowland (Aug 14)
- Re: $400 million network upgrade for the Pentagon David Lesher (Aug 14)
- RE: $400 million network upgrade for the Pentagon Scott Granados (Aug 14)
- RE: $400 million network upgrade for the Pentagon Daniel Golding (Aug 14)
- RE: $400 million network upgrade for the Pentagon Brad Knowles (Aug 14)
- RE: $400 million network upgrade for the Pentagon Scott Granados (Aug 14)
- RE: $400 million network upgrade for the Pentagon Brad Knowles (Aug 15)
- Re: $400 million network upgrade for the Pentagon David Lesher (Aug 14)
- Re: $400 million network upgrade for the Pentagon Scott Granados (Aug 14)
- RE: $400 million network upgrade for the Pentagon Daniel Golding (Aug 15)
- Re: $400 million network upgrade for the Pentagon David Lesher (Aug 15)
- Re: $400 million network upgrade for the Pentagon Gerald (Aug 15)
- RE: $400 million network upgrade for the Pentagon Brad Knowles (Aug 15)
- Re: $400 million network upgrade for the Pentagon Brad Knowles (Aug 15)
- Re: $400 million network upgrade for the Pentagon Brad Knowles (Aug 15)
- RE: $400 million network upgrade for the Pentagon David Schwartz (Aug 15)