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RE: Broadening the IPv6 discussion


From: "Daniel Golding" <dgolding () yahoo com>
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 11:05:49 -0400




Hmm. I'm afraid that I have to disagree with just about everything you've
said :) . I haven't seen any enterprise folks demanding v6 - If VOIP and
PDA's (?) use up their IP addresses, they can easily ask for more. The more
you use, the more you get. There is no shortage of v4 space.

China and Japan are not mandating anything, AFAIK. I believe that v6
deployment is being encouraged by some countries, and the spread of 3G is
helping things along, but we have yet to see really widespread v6
deployments anywhere.

Basically, major backbone networks will deploy v6 when it makes economic
sense for them to do so. Right now, there is no demand and no revenue
upside. I don't expect this to change in the near future.

v6 is, currently, a solution in search of a problem. v4 space is being
consumed slowly, but we are quite some time from a crisis. Of course, even
when we "consume" all such ipv4 space, there are still expedients that can
be used, including making v4 assets tradable and fungible.

- Dan

Irwin Lazar Said...



Since we're on the topic of IPv6, I wanted to gauge the current
attitude of
the ops. community toward its deployment.  We're seeing a lot
more interest
from our enterprise clients in using v6, especially as things
like VoIP and
PDAs consume their address pools, and NAT gets in the way of collaborative
apps such as netmeeting and business-to-business connectivity.
However, the
road-block seems to be the lack of ISPs that offer IPv6 services.

Given that places like China & Japan are now mandating IPv6 for
their ISPs,
does anyone see anything resembling a growing momentum toward
IPv6 adoption,
or is it still a moot issue for you guys?

Irwin



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