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RE: CIA Warns of Chinese Plans for Cyber-Attacks on U.S.


From: Chad Oleary <col () pobox com>
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 15:14:49 -0400 (EDT)


http://www.apnic.net/apnic-bin/ipv4-by-country.pl?country=kr

Should do the trick.. for IPv4...

--Chad

On Fri, 26 Apr 2002, Eric Germann wrote:

Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 15:03:35 -0400
From: Eric Germann <ekgermann () cctec com>
To: deepak () ai net
Cc: nanog () merit edu
Subject: RE: CIA Warns of Chinese Plans for Cyber-Attacks on U.S.

Only half tongue in cheek, does anyone know of a consise resource pointing
out the netblocks allocated to .kr, etc so I can answer my own

"How do I configure my router for ...."  question that Randy will inevitably
bring up?


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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu]On Behalf Of
Deepak Jain
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 2:43 PM
To: todd glassey; Joel Jaeggli
Cc: blitz; nanog () trapdoor merit edu
Subject: RE: CIA Warns of Chinese Plans for Cyber-Attacks on U.S.




I'm happy to take the blame for the real problem. Exactly what am I taking
the blame for?

Deepak Jain
AiNET



-----Original Message-----
From: todd glassey [mailto:todd.glassey () worldnet att net]
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 9:43 AM
To: Joel Jaeggli; Deepak Jain
Cc: blitz; nanog () trapdoor merit edu
Subject: Re: CIA Warns of Chinese Plans for Cyber-Attacks on U.S.


SNIP-


We're off-topic, but I'd say that cyberterrorismis far less
expensive to
create than invasion or nuclear weapons.

And they are much easier to stop. Just turn off the routers such
that China
is its own sealed-in infrastructure. But if its China's money you
are after
then you will have to build something akin to a "demarcation gateway"
between China and the rest of the world and then who cares what is done
inside China. Or you will ultimately be held liable for your custiomer's
attacks against the rest of the world...

You operators still dont seem to get that YOU are the real problem here.

Todd Glassey


Deepak Jain
AiNET

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu]On Behalf Of
blitz
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 6:33 PM
To: nanog () trapdoor merit edu
Subject: RE: CIA Warns of Chinese Plans for Cyber-Attacks on U.S.



I put nothing past them, of course theyre not alone, as we all must
assume
by now.
Theyve threatened to nuke LA if we interfere with their plans to take
Tiawan by force, and smile and say, kill 300 million of us, do us a
favor.
Kinda hard to deal with an enemy like that.

At 18:01 4/25/02 -0400, you wrote:


Is it really hard to believe that the Chinese government
would actively
fund
cyberterrorism?

Deepak Jain
AiNET




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