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Re: Sheilded Cat-5E Ground Loop - Myth or Reality?
From: "Barton F Bruce" <barton () gnaps com>
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 16:14:01 -0400
None of his is specific to Cat-5e installations but is common to ALL electrical installations.
This does NOT apply to telco cables run outside, often run on the same poles parallel to power wires for miles, grounded at many points in a MGN (Multi Grounded Neutral) environment where, like it or not, the earth carries considerable current. Opening a shield ground in this environment is bad. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Oberman" <oberman () es net> To: "Christopher K. Neitzert" <chris () neitzert com> Cc: <nanog () merit edu> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 2:17 PM Subject: Re: Sheilded Cat-5E Ground Loop - Myth or Reality?
*This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro*Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 17:43:50 +0000 (UTC) From: "Christopher K. Neitzert" <chris () neitzert com> Sender: owner-nanog () merit edu I'm in the process of managing cabling for a large install (500-ish
runs)
and a vendor came to me with a story about the creation of ground loops
in
running sheilded+gounded cat-5e in large installations. Does anyone have any experiences they would like to share regarding
this?
Just follow standard rules for grounding. If the shield is connected to anything, it should only be connected at one end! This is really always true, but is especially true when there is significant physical distance involved as this can result in current flow between the grounds. This will almost certainly create a significant hum field. Due to its excellent common mode rejection, this may not be a real problem, but it always deteriorates S/N margins to some extent. There is also a REAL safety issue! Make sure that ground is NOT exposed at the un-grounded end. A potential of many volts can occur, especially in areas subject to thunder storms. None of his is specific to Cat-5e installations but is common to ALL electrical installations. R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman () es net Phone: +1 510 486-8634
Current thread:
- Sheilded Cat-5E Ground Loop - Myth or Reality? Christopher K. Neitzert (Apr 10)
- Re: Sheilded Cat-5E Ground Loop - Myth or Reality? Kevin Oberman (Apr 10)
- Re: Sheilded Cat-5E Ground Loop - Myth or Reality? Barton F Bruce (Apr 10)
- Re: Sheilded Cat-5E Ground Loop - Myth or Reality? Kevin Oberman (Apr 10)
- Re: Sheilded Cat-5E Ground Loop - Myth or Reality? Barton F Bruce (Apr 10)
- Re: Sheilded Cat-5E Ground Loop - Myth or Reality? Kevin Oberman (Apr 10)
- Re: Sheilded Cat-5E Ground Loop - Myth or Reality? Christopher K. Neitzert (Apr 10)
- Re: Sheilded Cat-5E Ground Loop - Myth or Reality? David Lesher (Apr 10)
- Re: Sheilded Cat-5E Ground Loop - Myth or Reality? David Schwartz (Apr 10)
- Re: Sheilded Cat-5E Ground Loop - Myth or Reality? Mr. James W. Laferriere (Apr 10)
- Re: Sheilded Cat-5E Ground Loop - Myth or Reality? Barton F Bruce (Apr 10)
- Re: Sheilded Cat-5E Ground Loop - Myth or Reality? Kevin Oberman (Apr 10)