nanog mailing list archives
Re: Verio Peering Question
From: Alex Bligh <alex () alex org uk>
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 21:40:05 +0100
Randy (now at AT&T, I believe) and others claim this does not hurt performance
...
Of course, networks much larger than Verio (e.g. UUNET) accept /32s from their customers, as well as send and accept as small as /24s from peers. No other network seems to have a problem with the extra announcements.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Verio cannot explain why these larger networks can accept small announcements and still run a network as well (or better) than Verio, but Verio insists networks should not accept small announcements.
Many other networks filter, some to the same extent. Few post public policies. Few people are as vocal as Randy about it, and he's moved on from Verio. Given he's still vocal about it, and Verio still filter, either he's a very believable crank, or he has a point, and has been trying to educate you for free. You choose.
One can make one's own judgement what this says about Verio's ability to run a network.
I'd be making the judgement once I'd looked at performance and reliability stats. I'd also, as a customer, be keen to look at pricing to the customer, and as an investor or customer interested in long term survival of a supplire, at Capex expended to achieve whatever service level was given. On what would you be basing your judgement? I don't think anyone has ever claimed (Randy included) that filtering out long prefixes never hurts performance /to those long prefixes/. Just that the usage of those long prefixes is small, the effect is often small, and the NET effect (i.e. on performance to all prefixes) is often improved, AND the 'public good' effect, in terms of encouraging CIDR and discouraging disaggregation has benefits for the global routing table, for everybody, in terms of reduction of cost (nice statistical demonstration at last IETF Ptomaine session - please refer to 'belling the cat' problem). Are you going to present statistical data to the contrary? -- Alex Bligh Personal Capacity
Current thread:
- Verio Peering Question P R (Sep 27)
- Re: Verio Peering Question Patrick W. Gilmore (Sep 27)
- Re: Verio Peering Question Alex Bligh (Sep 27)
- Re: Verio Peering Question Randy Bush (Sep 27)
- Re: Verio Peering Question Patrick W. Gilmore (Sep 27)
- Re: Verio Peering Question Randy Bush (Sep 27)
- Re: Verio Peering Question Lucy E. Lynch (Sep 27)
- Re: Verio Peering Question Rob Thomas (Sep 27)
- Re: Verio Peering Question Alex Bligh (Sep 27)
- Re: Verio Peering Question Patrick W. Gilmore (Sep 27)
- Re: Verio Peering Question Dorian Kim (Sep 27)
- Re: Verio Peering Question Patrick W. Gilmore (Sep 28)
- Re: Verio Peering Question Majdi S. Abbas (Sep 28)
- Re: Verio Peering Question Sean Donelan (Sep 28)
- Re: Verio Peering Question Patrick W. Gilmore (Sep 27)