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Re: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt
From: Iljitsch van Beijnum <iljitsch () muada com>
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 13:43:18 +0200 (CEST)
On Fri, 26 Oct 2001, Scott Francis wrote:
Intentions matter not at all. Only results of said traffic, the consequences of which are borne entirely by the receiver. If the receiver doesn't want it, the receiver should not have to receive it.
This is not how things are done elsewhere, so I don't see why it would have to be on the net. Also, how do you intend to inform everyone about everyone else's wishes in this regard? And it seems to me that if I send someone a request and they honor that request (to echo back the packet) this doesn't really indiciate that these kinds of requests are unwelcome. There are several ICMP messages that would convey this sentiment much more clearly.
Unless you're willing to come out and state that being connected to the Internet is a de facto agreement to receive anything and everything somebody wishes to send you
It is, "de facto". If you know that doing something has a certain result, and you do it, you can't really be surprised that the result ensues. Connecting to the net means you'll receive packets. If you don't like this, don't connect or filter out the unwanted packets. What we really need is something where you can have a system close to the source block the unwanted traffic. This would help a lot against all those stupid bandwidth-hungry worms.
Current thread:
- Re: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt, (continued)
- Re: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt Leo Bicknell (Oct 26)
- Re: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt Wojtek Zlobicki (Oct 26)
- Re: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt Valdis . Kletnieks (Oct 26)
- Re: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt James Thomason (Oct 26)
- Re: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt Ian Cooper (Oct 26)
- Re: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt Wojtek Zlobicki (Oct 26)
- RE: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt Mike Batchelor (Oct 26)
- RE: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt Mike Batchelor (Oct 26)
- Re: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt Scott Francis (Oct 26)
- Re: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt James Thomason (Oct 26)
- Re: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt Iljitsch van Beijnum (Oct 26)
- Re: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt Paul Vixie (Oct 28)
- Re: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt JC Dill (Oct 26)
- Re: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt Wojtek Zlobicki (Oct 26)
- Re: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt Ian Cooper (Oct 26)
- Re: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt Pete Kruckenberg (Oct 26)
- Re: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt Scott Francis (Oct 26)
- RE: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt Mike Batchelor (Oct 26)
- Re: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt Gregory Urban (Oct 29)
- Re: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt Wojtek Zlobicki (Oct 29)
- Re: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt Patrick W. Gilmore (Oct 29)