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Re: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt
From: Pete Kruckenberg <pete () kruckenberg com>
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 01:02:29 -0600 (MDT)
On 25 Oct 2001, Paul Vixie wrote:
another test for "welcome" is "if everybody did this, would the recipient be injured?" clearly this is the same profile as "unequal benefit to the sender" and the answer in the case of these pings is "yes, ouch."
As the saying goes, even too much of a good thing can be bad. So looking at this from the 'too much' side, how can you tell if it was bad because it was all bad, or if it was just too much good, and that made it bad? I don't think you can infer that because the extreme case (everyone doing it) is bad (unequal), therefore the singular case is also bad/unequal. Most things tend to be viewed as 'equal' or otherwise tolerably 'fair' within certain ranges we call 'reasonable', and outside of those ranges is where they are considered unequally balanced.
this criteria. it *is* possible to know before initiating communication whether it's implicitly "welcome" by this standard, even if you have no direct relationship to the recipient whose terms and conditions would explicitly tell you the answer.
By this reasoning, I could never send an email or make a phone call or go visit everyone (especially a new acquaintance), because if /everyone/ sent them an email, or called them, or visited them, it would certainly be unwelcome (and possibly cause injury). My singular action is within the range considered fair and reasonable, where everyone doing it (or in fact, even just a few dozen people doing it) would probably not. Pete.
Current thread:
- Re: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt, (continued)
- Re: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt Wojtek Zlobicki (Oct 26)
- RE: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt Mike Batchelor (Oct 26)
- RE: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt Mike Batchelor (Oct 26)
- Re: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt Scott Francis (Oct 26)
- Re: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt James Thomason (Oct 26)
- Re: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt Iljitsch van Beijnum (Oct 26)
- Re: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt Paul Vixie (Oct 28)
- Re: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt JC Dill (Oct 26)
- Re: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt Wojtek Zlobicki (Oct 26)
- Re: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt Ian Cooper (Oct 26)
- Re: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt Pete Kruckenberg (Oct 26)
- Re: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt Scott Francis (Oct 26)
- RE: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt Mike Batchelor (Oct 26)
- Re: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt Gregory Urban (Oct 29)
- Re: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt Wojtek Zlobicki (Oct 29)
- Re: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt Patrick W. Gilmore (Oct 29)
- RE: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt? Christopher J. Wolff (Oct 25)
- RE: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt? Dave Stewart (Oct 25)
- Re: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt? Wojtek Zlobicki (Oct 25)
- Re: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt? Dave Stewart (Oct 25)
- Re: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt? JC Dill (Oct 25)