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Re: Why are you all still here? (Was Re: Stealth Blocking)
From: Mitch Halmu <mitch () netside net>
Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 11:53:04 -0400 (EDT)
On Thu, 24 May 2001 mike () biggorilla com wrote:
MAPS, ORBS, and the like are resources utilized by *endsystems* (http://www.nanog.org/endsystem.html). Network providers, IMHO, have no business filtering mail between endsystems, unless that network provider is handling the mail for the endsystem (and thefore is still an endsystem issue). If network providers were filtering mail at the network level, then maybe you would have an appropriate conversation for here, but I don't believe that is currently happening.
But that is the very issue that was discussed. Some filtering is indeed happening at the network level, regardless of what you may believe. There is supportive evidence of broken connectivity and transit packet loss because of blackholing by Tier 1 providers. Perhaps you missed the news that Macromedia's WEB SITE was blocked for a few days by Abovenet's routers? And so was Peacefire's, etc. --Mitch NetSide
Current thread:
- RE: Stealth Blocking, (continued)
- RE: Stealth Blocking Mitch Halmu (May 23)
- RE: Stealth Blocking John A. Tamplin (May 24)
- Re: Stealth Blocking Christopher A. Woodfield (May 23)
- Re: Stealth Blocking Albert Meyer (May 23)
- Re: Stealth Blocking Shawn McMahon (May 23)
- Re: Stealth Blocking Albert Meyer (May 23)
- Re: Stealth Blocking Shawn McMahon (May 24)
- Re: Stealth Blocking Albert Meyer (May 24)
- MTU sizing? was stealth blocking bmanning (May 24)
- Why are you all still here? (Was Re: Stealth Blocking) mike (May 24)
- Re: Why are you all still here? (Was Re: Stealth Blocking) Mitch Halmu (May 24)
- finding POPs Miles Fidelman (May 23)
- Re: Stealth Blocking Shawn McMahon (May 23)
- Re: Stealth Blocking Adam Rothschild (May 23)
- RE: Stealth Blocking David Schwartz (May 23)
- Re: Stealth Blocking Valdis . Kletnieks (May 24)
- Re: Stealth Blocking J.D. Falk (May 23)
- RE: Stealth Blocking David Schwartz (May 23)
- RE: Stealth Blocking jlewis (May 23)