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Re: Cable & Wireless "de-peering"?!?
From: Simon Lyall <simon.lyall () ihug co nz>
Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 10:25:46 +1200 (NZST)
On Mon, 7 May 2001, Joseph T. Klein wrote:
I contend that if quantifiable evidence exists that setting the peering bar high in the name of selling transit and/or restricting new players leads to a downward spiral in network quality ... then evidence exists that can be taken to stockholders and BOD of those companies.
Refusing to peer is not always a bad option if you have a big enough share of the market. In Australia the top 3 providers (Telstra, Optus, connect.com) own about 80% of the market, host most of the domestic content and supply circuits to most other ISPs. It is "pretty hard" to setup peering with any of them. They have very little incentive to peer with smaller ISPs. The small provider will have to connect with one of them anyway and they will obviously make more money changing this provider for the circuit (and the traffic) than just peering for free. On the other hand in New Zealand we have all except on of the large providers well connected by a couple of peering exchanges. This provider is under a lot of pressure to peer with everyone else and at least one other provider has recently shutdown a circuit that was being used for peering (The large provider is trying to force others to pay for circuits directly to it, plus some other fees). -- Simon Lyall. | Newsmaster | Work: simon.lyall () ihug co nz Senior Network/System Admin | Postmaster | Home: simon () darkmere gen nz ihug, Auckland, NZ | Asst Doorman | Web: http://www.darkmere.gen.nz
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- RE: Cable & Wireless "de-peering"?!? David Schwartz (May 05)
- Re: Cable & Wireless "de-peering"?!? John Payne (May 05)
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- Re: Cable & Wireless "de-peering"?!? Richard A. Steenbergen (May 05)
- RE: Cable & Wireless "de-peering"?!? Daniel Golding (May 05)
- Re: Cable & Wireless "de-peering"?!? Tony Mumm (May 06)
- Re: Cable & Wireless "de-peering"?!? Joseph T. Klein (May 06)
- Re: Cable & Wireless "de-peering"?!? Albert Meyer (May 07)
- Re: Cable & Wireless "de-peering"?!? Paul Vixie (May 07)
- Re: Cable & Wireless "de-peering"?!? Peter van Dijk (May 07)
- Re: Cable & Wireless "de-peering"?!? Joseph T. Klein (May 07)
- Re: Cable & Wireless "de-peering"?!? Simon Lyall (May 07)
- Re: Cable & Wireless "de-peering"?!? Peter van Dijk (May 07)
- RE: Cable & Wireless "de-peering"?!? David Schwartz (May 07)
- Re: Cable & Wireless "de-peering"?!? hardie (May 07)
- Re: Cable & Wireless "de-peering"?!? Jeff Mcadams (May 07)
- RE: Cable & Wireless "de-peering"?!? David Schwartz (May 07)
- RE: Cable & Wireless "de-peering"?!? Stephen J. Wilcox (May 08)
- RE: Cable & Wireless "de-peering"?!? Daniel Golding (May 05)
- Re: Cable & Wireless "de-peering"?!? Stephen Stuart (May 07)
- RE: Cable & Wireless "de-peering"?!? Mike Leber (May 07)
- Re: Cable & Wireless "de-peering"?!? Paul Vixie (May 07)
- Re: Cable & Wireless "de-peering"?!? Alex Bligh (May 08)