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Re: Statements against new.net?
From: Ron Snyder <snyder () roguewave com>
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 08:47:37 -0800
On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 06:55:26PM -0600, Edward S. Marshall wrote:
On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 12:30:19PM -0500, David Charlap wrote:BUT if representatives from a dozen or a hundred ISPs meet together and choose to blackhole new.net for the explicit purpose of running them out of business, and then do so, they would be in violation of US anti-trust laws.You mean, like the owners and operators of numerous core US networks getting together on an archived mailing list like this one, and openly discussing the idea of putting new.net out of business by various means (blackholing them, legally pressuring them, etc)? You're right, that might constitute violation of anti-trust law. :-) But what do I know? I'm no lawyer.
I'm no lawyer either, but it seems that intent is a pretty hard case to make. I would think that network operators could take a couple of different paths to blackholing new.net: 1) Looking at the plan and realizing that it is going to increase their support costs with no increase in profits, therefore as a defensive measure and to protect their own resources, an ISP chooses to blackhole new.net 2) Waiting until support calls start to come in wrt to problems that the new.net plugin/alternate roots/whatever creates, and then blackholing new.net. (option #1 seems more preferable, just to avoid the customer who says "well it was working last week, how come it doesn't work now?" issues.) Neither of these options says anything at all about intent to run them out of business, and says much about intent to keep the isp in business. -ron
Current thread:
- Re: Statements against new.net?, (continued)
- Re: Statements against new.net? Steven M. Bellovin (Mar 13)
- Re: Statements against new.net? Stephen J. Wilcox (Mar 14)
- RE: Statements against new.net? Roeland Meyer (Mar 14)
- RE: Statements against new.net? Roeland Meyer (Mar 14)
- RE: Statements against new.net? Roeland Meyer (Mar 14)
- RE: Statements against new.net? Roeland Meyer (Mar 14)
- RE: Statements against new.net? Mathias Koerber (Mar 14)
- Re: Statements against new.net? David Charlap (Mar 14)
- RE: Statements against new.net? Mark Radabaugh - Amplex (Mar 14)
- Re: Statements against new.net? Edward S. Marshall (Mar 14)
- Re: Statements against new.net? Ron Snyder (Mar 15)
- RE: Statements against new.net? Mathias Koerber (Mar 14)
- Re: Statements against new.net? Marshall Eubanks (Mar 14)
- Re: Statements against new.net? Shawn McMahon (Mar 14)