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RE: GRC rides again...


From: "Benny Fischer" <benny () infinet-is com>
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 12:10:42 -0700


MS reply, for all this nonsense

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/security/
raw_sockets.asp


Benny Fischer
Chief Technical Officer
Infinet Internet Services
benny () infinet-is com
480-<snip>

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu]On Behalf Of
Ron Buchalski
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 2:59 PM
To: rapier () psc edu
Cc: nanog () merit edu
Subject: Re: GRC rides again...



Chris Rapier writes:
From: Chris Rapier <rapier () psc edu>
CC: nanog () merit edu
Subject: Re: GRC rides again...
Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 10:45:39 -0400

My feeling is that he's missing some clues regarding the necessary
realities of the situation. Its not so much a matter of laziness,

<snip>

I'm also sure that XP might increase the number of spoofed packets
running through the network. If that spurs more ISPs to use source
address filtering them thats a good thing. Even if they don't it is
possible to track down where a spoofed IP is coming from - its more of a
social engineering issue than a technical one.


The GRC page talks about his dos attack, and he also rants about the
"dangers" of the IP stack in XP, but his dos attack didn't come
from sources
sending spoofed packets, so source address filtering wouldn't
have helped in
this case.  GRC complaining about the spoofed packet problem should be a
separate rant on his website (who knows...it probably is!).

-rb

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