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Re: Affects of the balkanization of mail blacklisting


From: "Christopher A. Woodfield" <rekoil () semihuman com>
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 11:18:56 -0400


More so, it is trivial to "overrrule" a MAPS listing in your mail server 
or router if you don't agree with it. So there's no "all or nothing" rule 
either. This applies to any DNS-based, and probably other types, of BLs.

-C

But you have yet to ever tell anyone how, exactly, MAPS does any
censoring.  They provide(d?) a list of IP addresses.  That is _all_ they
have ever done.  I cannot go up to Vixie or MAPS and say "filter my mail
for me", nor have I ever (that I'm aware of) been able to do so.  MAPS
does NOT censor anything.  Period.  They provide a set of information,
which ISPs make a (presumably informed) decision to do filtering (or
censorship, if you want to call it that) based on.  That is a business
decision for those ISPs to make, a right which I'm pretty sure I recall
you defending at some point in one of the monthly MAPS/ORBS/whoever is
evil flamewars.

You dance around the real facts in this matter _every single time_ this is
brought up.  Please explain to me, exactly how MAPS censors anything.
I'll look forward to your reply.  And don't tell me MAPS filtering is
enabled by default in Sendmail, or point me to your propaganda page -
the first one isn't true, and I've read the second before - it doesn't
answer my question.

And if you can't come up with an explanation, can we please end this
monthly flamewar early and keep me from having to add some more rules to
my .procmailrc?

Tim

-- 
Tim Wilde
twilde () dyndns org
Systems Administrator
Dynamic DNS Network Services
http://www.dyndns.org/


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