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Re: Faster 'Net growth rate raises fears about routers
From: Stephen Griffin <stephen.griffin () rcn com>
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 19:31:24 -0400 (EDT)
In the referenced message, Gary E. Miller said:
Yo Stephen! On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, Stephen Griffin wrote:So, if people picked better providers, they wouldn't need to multihome. You feel you need to multihome, because you keep picking DSL, which just isn't a good choce for "mission critical applications".PSI could be next. They are not DSL. If I still had a PSInet connection I would sure want it multihomed.
I don't see how this changes anything. DSL is a subset of the "not good" variety, not the complete set. If I had "mission critical applications" I would probably include companies that are likely to file for Chapter 7 or Chapter 11 in the "not good" variety. Certainly people can argue (and would probably make more headway) that the majority of providers aren't "good enough". I would certainly advocate for providers working for better stability through things like effective route-filtering, and spending less money on router memory and more on additional redundancy and infrastructure. These things would make the need to multihome go away, reducing the cost to the end consumer (through less incremental upgrades to support the bloat, as well as not paying for service to multiple providers). Unfortunately, I think many people can't see the forest for the trees, drive up the costs for every provider, decrease stability, and on the long term raise their own costs. Stephen All my opinions, etc etc
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- RE: Faster 'Net growth rate raises fears about routers Travis Pugh (Apr 03)
- RE: Faster 'Net growth rate raises fears about routers Tony Barber (Apr 04)
- RE: Faster 'Net growth rate raises fears about routers Roeland Meyer (Apr 03)
- RE: Faster 'Net growth rate raises fears about routers RJ Atkinson (Apr 03)
- RE: Faster 'Net growth rate raises fears about routers Randy Bush (Apr 03)
- RE: Faster 'Net growth rate raises fears about routers David Schwartz (Apr 03)
- RE: Faster 'Net growth rate raises fears about routers RJ Atkinson (Apr 03)
- RE: Faster 'Net growth rate raises fears about routers Roeland Meyer (Apr 03)
- Re: Faster 'Net growth rate raises fears about routers Stephen Griffin (Apr 04)
- Re: Faster 'Net growth rate raises fears about routers Gary E. Miller (Apr 04)
- RE: Faster 'Net growth rate raises fears about routers Matt Levine (Apr 04)
- Re: Faster 'Net growth rate raises fears about routers Stephen Griffin (Apr 04)
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- Re: Faster 'Net growth rate raises fears about routers Henry Yen (Apr 05)
- Re: Faster 'Net growth rate raises fears about routers Stephen Griffin (Apr 04)
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- Re: Faster 'Net growth rate raises fears about routers Shawn McMahon (Apr 04)
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