Re: Fw: Administrivia: ORBS

["Henry R. Linneweh" <linneweh () concentric net>]

Thank you for reading deeper into the issue and pointing this out..

Shawn McMahon wrote:

> Please refer to this paragraph from their FAQ:
>
> If you'd like to firewall the test machine, go right ahead. You'll test as
> fixed, then be removed from the database and you can bask in the false
> sense of security that you're not included as an open relay. Meantime, what
> will probably happen is that various spammer probes will find you, add your
> machine to the lists which they sell and hundreds of junkmailers will relay
> their crud through you - then you'll end up in our static table as a
> verified open relay when someone mails us that spam and we confirm there's
> a firewall up against our tester. Additionally, you'll most likely end up
> in dozens, if not hundreds of blocking lists operated by individual admins
> as they receive spam via your server - and it's far easier to get out of
> ORBS than out of a whole bunch of lists you've never heard of. If you must
> firewall, do it properly and only allow your own machines access to the
> open relay.
>
> I refer you specifically to the last part of the third sentence:
>
> "...and we confirm there's a firewall up against our tester."
>
> And we *CONFIRM*.  Not speculate, not hear, CONFIRM.
>
> If they aren't doing that, they're wrong.  That's my position.
>
> To say that my position denotes ignorance as to their policies is asinine.
>
> I'm done with this thread.
>
> At 07:59 PM 1/13/2000 -0600, you wrote:
>
> > Why should the ORBS maintainers attempt to work around that very explicit
> > request from the network administrators to not probe their network? Their
> > most ethical and reasonable option is to add that address block manually
> > to the listing, because they cannot (without explicitly acting against the
> > wishes of that network's administration) verify that the addresses in that
> > space are relaying or not.

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