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Re: ARIN whois
From: "Henry R. Linneweh" <linneweh () concentric net>
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 10:56:18 -0800
I think for the most part one essential element is missing here the "CUSTOMER" is the recipient of the SPAM from an OPEN relay, and that is harassment. It becomes criminal when the SPAM provides you with incentive to pay money so that you can make $50,000.00 in 30 days, NOT. When the customer gets about 200 of these a month in his/her email, they are looking at the ISP for a solution. The customer does not want SPAM, period. The customer wants to reserve the right to do business with those businesses that useful to their need. Not a Dentist in Bermuda or Florida, let alone get the best XXX from these skanks here type of drivel. As a customer (consumer) of internet services I want my rights back! Bruce Campbell wrote:
On Mon, 22 Nov 1999, Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote:What "legitimate business purposes" necessitate leaving SMTP relays open to the world?How about running a commercial email gateway?Lets try another analogy set, ie You run a gas station. open-relay: You give out free fuel to whoever turns up in a vehicle capable of accepting fuel from your bowser. pop-before-smtp authentication: You require a valid corporate fleet card before handing out fuel. full-anti-relay: You require payment before letting them near the bowser. trusted-hosts or IP-based access lists: If their numberplate is in a certain range, give them free fuel.How about commercial anonymous re-mailers?Ah, this would be: You give out free fuel on sighting, but not verifying, a corporate fleet card, and give them a new car. --==-- Bruce. Peregrinus expectavi pedes meos in cymbalis est.
-- Thank you; |--------------------------------------------| | Thinking is a learned process so is UNIX | |--------------------------------------------| Henry R. Linneweh
Current thread:
- Re: ARIN whois, (continued)
- Re: ARIN whois jlewis (Nov 23)
- Re: ARIN whois Dean Anderson (Nov 22)
- Re: ARIN whois Ehud Gavron (Nov 22)
- Re: ARIN whois Robert Gash (Nov 22)
- RE: ARIN whois Roeland M.J. Meyer (Nov 22)
- Re: ARIN whois Joe Shaw (Nov 22)
- RE: ARIN whois Roeland M.J. Meyer (Nov 22)
- RE: ARIN whois Bruce Campbell (Nov 23)
- RE: ARIN whois Roeland M.J. Meyer (Nov 23)
- Relaying to non-standard TLD's (was Re: ARIN whois) J.D. Falk (Nov 23)
- Re: ARIN whois Henry R. Linneweh (Nov 23)
- RE: ARIN whois John Fraizer (Nov 24)
- RE: ARIN whois Roeland M.J. Meyer (Nov 25)
- Re: ARIN whois Etaoin Shrdlu (Nov 25)
- Re: ARIN whois Steve Sobol (Nov 30)
- Re: ARIN whois Derek J. Balling (Nov 22)
- Re: ARIN whois Dan Hollis (Nov 22)
- Re: ARIN whois Patrick Evans (Nov 22)
- Re: ARIN whois Steve Dispensa (Nov 22)