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Re: Monitoring, Flow Stats (Re: spam whore, norcal-systems)


From: Dean Anderson <dean () av8 com>
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 15:25:46 -0500

At 12:51 PM 2/3/1999 -0500, Christopher Neill wrote:
On Tue, Feb 02, 1999 at 09:43:37PM -0500, Dean Anderson wrote:
The anti-spammers usually claim the abuse exception as justification for
instituting a block.  Its their best (though still flimsy) argument.  Its
flimsy since the congress has the authority to regulate or ban spam, and
the congress did pass laws banning junk faxes, and limiting calls to cell
phones, yet they have not yet banned spam.  Nor has any court found spam by
itself to be an abuse. The one spam related law that was before the
congress would have placed some requirements on spammers, but would have
made it specifically not an abuse for 2511.  In other words, the congress
doesn't agree with the anti-spammers.


I really would beg to differ--congress has the right to legistlate,
certainly, and until they do legislate one way or the other on the matter
its pretty much in the ISPs hands; 

They did legislate; a number of times in fact. It was called the Electronic
Communications Privacy Act. First created in 1968, then modified a number
of times, most recently in 1996 to specifically to make it broad enough to
protect email.  You can see it in 18 USC 25xx (in-transit communications)
and 18 USC 27xx (stored communications).  One doesn't lose privacy
protections merely because they are or might be doing something you don't
approve of.

But since we have already covered this territory, I'll refer you to the
archives.

                --Dean

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