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Re: RBL quandry - opinions hereby solicited
From: Rich Sena <ras () poppa clubrich tiac net>
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 17:07:05 -0500 (EST)
Dean stop beeing a boob - it's spam - it's not hey glad your a customer hope all is well it's hey use us to register new domains - it's being generated to compete against other avenues of registration - lets call it what it is - if you like it great - give it a hug and kiss and give it a rest - the majority I would assume aren't real thrilled about it - and the whole speil about fake email addresses cuz folk don't want to give out theirs - is bullshit - the correct answer is "then you don't get a domain" drive through please. On Mon, 16 Nov 1998, Dean Anderson wrote:
Not so. You can use another registry. .COM, .NET, and .ORG may be the most popular, but they are not the only ones. When you refuse to do business with NSI, they don't send you email. They don't get lists and send email to random people. If you don't agree to let NSI send you email, they won't do business with you. Everyone agreed to those terms. Can't come back and change them later, because you don't like it. Personally, I don't see anything wrong with most of the mail I've gotten from them. Some of it a bit technically insulting, but that doesn't make it totally unreasonable from an email ethics point of view. It certainly doesn't qualify as spam, since it is in fact solicited. You paid $100+ for the privilege. Technically, they aren't broadcasting either. They are sending email to their customers. Not potential future customers. Existing customers. They didn't buy this list from somewhere. They asked for, and required customers to give this information, and to give them permission to send email. You seem to be in a conflict with your own rules, since you have said that you don't RBL companies that are using their own internal lists. As I thought, you aren't operating from some kind of moral or ethical principal, you are just bullying others. I just don't like that, whether you happen to be right or not.2] They are sending to folks that use the service.yes. which is: everybody who has a domain in COM, NET, or ORG.Ahh, it has finally come to a confrontation with someone who quite possibly speaks more authoritatively for everyone in those domains than you do. This will be interesting, to say the least. I wonder if RBLing NetSol is cause for them to put vix.com on hold. That would be a hoot. I suppose they actually could call you in breach of contract for refusing to receive email, refund your money, and cancel your domains. --Dean ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Plain Aviation, Inc dean () av8 com LAN/WAN/UNIX/NT/TCPIP http://www.av8.com ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
-- I am nothing if not net-Q! - ras () poppa clubrich tiac net
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- Re: RBL quandry - opinions hereby solicited, (continued)
- Re: RBL quandry - opinions hereby solicited Steven J. Sobol (Nov 16)
- Re: RBL quandry - opinions hereby solicited Mike Reno (Nov 16)
- Re: RBL quandry - opinions hereby solicited Steven J. Sobol (Nov 16)
- Re: RBL quandry - opinions hereby solicited Steven J. Sobol (Nov 16)
- RE: RBL quandry - opinions hereby solicited Dean Robb (Nov 16)
- Re: RBL quandry - opinions hereby solicited John Fraizer (Nov 16)
- Re: RBL quandry - opinions hereby solicited Dean Anderson (Nov 16)
- Re: RBL quandry - opinions hereby solicited Dean Anderson (Nov 16)
- Re: RBL quandry - opinions hereby solicited Steven J. Sobol (Nov 16)
- Re: RBL quandry - opinions hereby solicited Phil Howard (Nov 17)
- Re: RBL quandry - opinions hereby solicited Jared Mauch (Nov 17)
- Re: RBL quandry - opinions hereby solicited Rich Sena (Nov 21)
- Re: RBL quandry - opinions hereby solicited Mike Reno (Nov 16)
- Re: RBL quandry - opinions hereby solicited Rodney Joffe (Nov 16)
- Re: RBL quandry - opinions hereby solicited John M. Brown (Nov 16)
- Re: RBL quandry - opinions hereby solicited Rodney Joffe (Nov 16)
- Re: RBL quandry - opinions hereby solicited Mike Reno (Nov 17)
- Re: RBL quandry - opinions hereby solicited Dean Anderson (Nov 17)
- Re: RBL quandry - opinions hereby solicited Dorn Hetzel (Nov 19)
- Re: RBL quandry - opinions hereby solicited Dean Anderson (Nov 23)
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