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RE: FCC Ruling, Cost of Internet
From: "Christian Kuhtz" <ck () adsu bellsouth com>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 17:49:41 -0500
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The Commission intends to address next week, in a separate order, the broader issue of whether conventional dial-up
access
to the Internet, made through calls to information service
providers,
including Internet Service Providers (ISPs), is local or
interstate in
nature.This stupidity again?
Isn't the real issue inter-LATA vs intra-LATA?
An Internet dialup call is an interstate call if you're in one state dialing into a POP in another. Otherwise it's not. Duh.
Well, not quite so simple in the current regulatory disaster.
The FCC has much better things to do than debate a point for which
the
answer is painfully obvious.
Is it really that obvious? I don't think so if you consider the full picture of everything resulting from the way the country is currently chopped up -- LATA region & state wise..
If you're going to tell me that when I dial up to my account in downtown Cleveland from my house ten minutes
away, I'm
going to either laugh at you, tell you you're a flaming idiot, or
quite
possibly both.
Even if you complete a call from one bedroom to another, it is conceivable that you might cross LATA boundaries, or state boundaries. I am not saying that it is a good way to do it that way, but that's the way the entire regulatory mess is defined. In fact, an RBOC could not sell you access that way. Meaning: RBOCs can't sell you inter-LATA traffic, although they make a lot of attempts to make it look like they are when they are in fact "teaming" with a 3rd party to provide service to you that looks like one offering.
Sorry. My ISDN line at home is serviced by Ameritech, and NACS's
PRIs are
serviced by ICG/Netcom. Maybe I should get charged for a call from
Chicago
to Denver since Ameritech is headquaratered in Chicago and ICG is in Denver, even though I'm calling from Cleveland to Cleveland.
Again, it isn't quite that simple. Unfortunately.
If there's something obvious that I'm missing here, please, PLEASE point it out to me...
L-A-T-A. *point* Regulatory garbage.
Oh yeah. Are they going to insist on charging per-minute for voice
calls
as well as data calls? I bet not.
Well, depends on how and where your calls are terminated. It is quite easily conceivable that an RBOC may get charged by the minute for each completed call, and yet all they are is local calls. It just so happens that the RBOC is the orginator and a CLEC customer a termination point. CLEC makes money for not doing hardly anything. Heck, the CLEC doesn't even need facilities. All it needs to do is have customers. Cheers, Chris - -- Christian Kuhtz <ck () adsu bellsouth com> -wk ck () gnu org -hm Sr. Network Architect, BellSouth Corp., Advanced Data Services NOTE: "We speak PGP: key available at well-known key servers." "Turnaucka's Law: The attention span of a computer is only as long as its electrical cord." -- /usr/games/fortune -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 6.0 for non-commercial use <http://www.pgp.com> iQA/AwUBNkTOg4RXnO1Cm58sEQJVPwCgrdcSUNzwHXvU1Zd1VdZUHFmjAS4Aniur 2Bf8wGrRdj7yocuZqQiIBx7L =HhcI -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Current thread:
- FCC Ruling, Cost of Internet Ivars Upatnieks (Nov 03)
- Re: FCC Ruling, Cost of Internet Steven J. Sobol (Nov 03)
- Re: FCC Ruling, Cost of Internet Peter Stemwedel (Nov 03)
- Re: FCC Ruling, Cost of Internet Bret McDanel (Nov 04)
- RE: FCC Ruling, Cost of Internet Christian Kuhtz (Nov 08)
- Re: FCC Ruling, Cost of Internet John Gonzalez/netMDC admin (Nov 03)
- RE: FCC Ruling, Cost of Internet Christian Kuhtz (Nov 08)
- Re: FCC Ruling, Cost of Internet Steven J. Sobol (Nov 09)
- Re: FCC Ruling, Cost of Internet Peter Stemwedel (Nov 03)
- Re: FCC Ruling, Cost of Internet John Curran (Nov 03)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- RE: FCC Ruling, Cost of Internet MacFarland, Chris (Nov 03)
- Re: FCC Ruling, Cost of Internet Steven J. Sobol (Nov 03)
- RE: FCC Ruling, Cost of Internet Christian Kuhtz (Nov 08)
- Re: FCC Ruling, Cost of Internet Steven J. Sobol (Nov 03)