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Re: Why does Sprint have address filters again?
From: "Roeland M.J. Meyer" <rmeyer () mhsc com>
Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 12:52:04 -0700
Guys, I hate to bring business issues up in a technical forum, but y'all started it. There is a definite business case for portable /21's. First off, I understand the technical need to limit ASN's to /19's so I don't need lecture #101. However, those limits were set quite some time ago. When can we reduce them? Has technology stood still? The need is for service ISP's, as opposed to Internet Access Providers. We need portability too. At 01:34 PM 5/31/98 -0500, Karl Denninger wrote:
On Sun, May 31, 1998 at 12:30:46AM -0700, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:At 01:27 AM 5/30/98 -0500, Karl Denninger wrote:This does make sense - a lot of sense.Karl Denninger (karl () MCS Net)| MCSNet - Serving Chicagoland and WisconsinOn Sat, May 30, 1998 at 12:26:31AM -0400, Jamie Scheinblum wrote:Suggestion: The initial ASN should be bundled with a /19 to create a "multi-home" package. Unbundled ASNs whould be unreasonably high to cover the administration of the initial ASNs of the world, and the cost associated with a /19.No, it does not make a lot of sense. In fact, IMHO, this is a very, *very* bad idea. Remember what we are trying to conserve here - not just ASNs, but IP Space too. Making unbundled ASNs "unreasonably high" would kill all the people who are being good little businesses and conserving IP space.Uh, hold on a second.... I didn't say to make the first ASN "unreasonably" expensive (and I do believe $500 is unreasonable). However, with a REASONABLE first ASN fee (ie: $50 or thereabouts) bundling THAT with a /19 when you get your first PI allocation is even more reasonable. After all, the justification for the IP space encompasses that for the ASN, so the work has already been done, and the additional effort at that point should be literally a few keystrokes. My proposals to fix the issue with regards to getting a /19 if you're multihomed are also out there; has NANOG seen them? -- -- Karl Denninger (karl () MCS Net)| MCSNet - Serving Chicagoland and Wisconsin http://www.mcs.net/ | T1's from $600 monthly / All Lines K56Flex/DOV | NEW! Corporate ISDN Prices dropped by up to 50%! Voice: [+1 312 803-MCS1 x219]| EXCLUSIVE NEW FEATURE ON ALL PERSONAL ACCOUNTS Fax: [+1 312 803-4929] | *SPAMBLOCK* Technology now included at no cost
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- Re: Why does Sprint have address filters again?, (continued)
- Re: Why does Sprint have address filters again? Dean Robb (May 28)
- Re: Why does Sprint have address filters again? Karl Denninger (May 28)
- Re: Why does Sprint have address filters again? Michael Dillon (May 28)
- Re: Why does Sprint have address filters again? Randy Bush (May 27)
- Re: Why does Sprint have address filters again? Sean M. Doran (May 28)
- Re: Why does Sprint have address filters again? Sean M. Doran (May 29)
- RE: Why does Sprint have address filters again? Jamie Scheinblum (May 29)
- Re: Why does Sprint have address filters again? Karl Denninger (May 29)
- Re: Why does Sprint have address filters again? Patrick W. Gilmore (May 31)
- Re: Why does Sprint have address filters again? Karl Denninger (May 31)
- Re: Why does Sprint have address filters again? Roeland M.J. Meyer (May 31)
- Re: Why does Sprint have address filters again? Karl Denninger (May 31)
- Re: Why does Sprint have address filters again? Karl Denninger (May 29)
- Re: Why does Sprint have address filters again? Karl Denninger (May 30)
- Re: Why does Sprint have address filters again? madlion (May 31)
- Re: Why does Sprint have address filters again? Kim Hubbard (May 30)
- Re: Why does Sprint have address filters again? Karl Denninger (May 31)