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Re: MTU of the Internet?


From: "Forrest W. Christian" <forrestc () iMach com>
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 10:51:44 -0700 (MST)

On Wed, 4 Feb 1998, Perry E. Metzger wrote:

Several people have noted to the Microsoft Support and Product groups that
they want the Windows 95 PPP MTU to be set to 576 (down from 1500).  this
change is in Windows 98.

<snip>

accept a large MTU, no matter what Windows would like. The entire
story sounds, to say the least, fishy.

I think what is really going on is that people tweaking on the MTU setting
have discovered that for some unknown reason 576 just plain works better
over a dialup PPP connection than ~1500 or any other value for that
matter.

My guess would be that it is in some way related to the packet latency
generated by clocking in 1500 bytes over a ppp link (~500 ms PLUS the
V.whatever overhead)  A ~500 byte packet would be more like ~166 ms.  I
just did a real-world check of these numbers, and they seem pretty close
to reality for a 28.8 connection.   They're a little high for a 33.6.
(real 33.6 numbers were 250 (total clock+v.?) and 412 for 500 and 1500
respectively)

Now it's been a while since I looked at latency vs transfer rates, so
maybe someone who works on this on an everyday basis would like to comment
on what ~200 more ms of latency on a 28.8 link would do to throughput
end-to-end across the net (totals of something like 350 and 512 ms
end-to-end).

I'm pretty certain though, that the common "myth" that 576 works better
because of end-to-end MTU's is just that - a myth.   My network is all
1500 or better - not sure if I've EVER seen anything less than 1500 or
not in the last few years, but I doubt it.

- Forrest W. Christian (forrestc () imach com) 
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