Re: AS8584 taking over the internet

[Hank Nussbacher <hank () ibm net il>]

At 08:36 AM 4/9/98 +0100, philip bridge wrote:
> Cengiz,
>
> That is of course laudible. But the point has to be made that AS8584 is in
> Israel. In an environment when a small ISP in a small country can cause a
> lot of damage to the global Internet, a way has to be found to efficiently
> propogate this knowledge far and wide.

Long before everyone woke up and found this I was on the phone with them -
discovering that they were doing some nasty redistributes and didn't quite
understand.  There are thousands of ISPs in the world - some even more
clueless  than Barak.  If you are an upstream ISP and talk BGP to someone
downstream and don't filter - then you are to blame.  AS4000 (among others)-
which is Barak's upstream should have known better.

-Hank


> Phil
>
> At 02:10 PM 4/8/98 -0600, Cengiz Alaettinoglu wrote:
> > philip bridge on Wed, 08 Apr 1998 20:08:03 +0100 said:
> > > It seems that the current state of the IRR and the supporting tools are
> > > in general simply too complex for a lot of people to get to grips with
> > > ... which includes me - we build ours manually :-(  
> >
> > To familarize with the IRR and the supporting tools, Sunday before next
> > two nanogs, there will be a IRR/RPSL/RAToolSet tutorials. We will send an
> > official announcement very soon about it.
> >
> > Cengiz
>
>
>
> ______________________________________________________________
> Philip Bridge  
> ++41 31 688 8262       bridge () ip-plus net     www.ip-plus.ch
> PGP: DE78 06B7 ACDB CB56 CE88 6165 A73F B703