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Re: AS8584 taking over the internet
From: Dean Anderson <dean () av8 com>
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:42:47 -0400
At 11:51 PM -0400 4/9/98, Randy Bush wrote:
before we get too hysterical, it may be worth noting that to date the problems have been caused by lack of clue, not lack of ethics, morals, or empathy. not that this is reason less for caution, but it might guide our reaction towards the actual, as opposed to imagined, problems.
This isn't entirely true. I know of several cases (and they have been discussed on this list) where bogus routes have been announced with either malicious, unethical or immoral intentions. Case 1: bogus announcement to bring down Cyberpromo (this may have occured more than once). Case 2: bogus announcements of unallocated space to bypass spam filters, and avoid identification. Both of these cases were probably done to technically (at least nominally) clueful people who were generally authorized to advertise new routes. I suspect a real terrorist action would be dealt with more quickly. Perhaps the regularity of hosage means that a terrorist action wouldn't really have much effect, so perhaps there isn't too much to worry about. (terrorists don't attack trains that derail on a weekly basis anyway, and China Air has never had a terrorist threat...) But whatever the solution, it can probably be taken advantage of by the multitude of authorized people. What is needed is better auditing so that the people who make the mistakes, either honestly or on purpose, are punished appropriately for their mistakes. Punishment must work internationally. Perhaps what we need is a UN Internet Tribunal. --Dean ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Plain Aviation, Inc dean () av8 com LAN/WAN/UNIX/NT/TCPIP/DCE http://www.av8.com We Make IT Fly! (617)242-3091 x246 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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