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Re: Spam Control Considered Harmful
From: Cal Thixton - President - ThoughtPort Authority of Chicago <cthixton () thoughtport net>
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 97 20:14:38 -0600
Phil, The analog to email in the real world is the US Postal service where we have even far weaker authentication systems in place. To cope with abuses, we passed laws governing the use the the mails when Ben Franklin got a anonymous and most unwelcomed solicitation from Thomas Jefferson. I personally see no practical technical means of eliminating the practise of spamming and rather than spending time trying to dream up fancier and smarter sendmail's, we should seek to simply expand the current mail fraud laws to cover electronic mail. Then we can simply sic the FBI on these people armed with terabytes of logs and spam emails and then see what happens when a few are convicted of electonic mail fraud and sent up the river for a rest. Cal "Yes, my house is made of brick, but the front door is made of glass. I do this because I have faith in the social contract I have with my neighbors that assures me that they won't break it and I won't call the cops (or, when I lived in Texas, use my gun)." Begin forwarded message: X-Sender: phil () agis net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 18:06:33 -0500 To: Cal_Thixton () TPA Net From: Phil Lawlor <phil () agis net> Subject: Re: Spam Control Considered Harmful Cc: nanog () merit edu At 12:56 PM 10/29/97 -0600, Cal Thixton - President - ThoughtPort Authority of Chicago wrote:
The problem with the 'Caller-ID' idea is verifying that an email address
is >'valid' (assuming you have a reasonable definition for 'valid'). About the only >thing that sendmail can do is verify a reverse lookup is equal to its forward >lookup. Exactly. I guess the question is, should we build more sender verification into sendmail, on both the sending and receiving side? Phil Lawlor President AGIS Voice - 313-730-1130 Fax - 313-563-6119
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- RE: Spam Control Considered Harmful, (continued)
- RE: Spam Control Considered Harmful Jordan Mendelson (Oct 28)
- RE: Spam Control Considered Harmful Jon Lewis (Oct 28)
- Re: Spam Control Considered Harmful Bill Hogan (Oct 28)
- Re: Spam Control Considered Harmful Cal Thixton - President - ThoughtPort Authority of Chicago (Oct 29)
- Re: Spam Control Considered Harmful Phil Lawlor (Oct 29)
- Re: Spam Control Considered Harmful Derek Andree (Oct 29)
- Re: Spam Control Considered Harmful Phil Lawlor (Oct 29)
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- Re: Spam Control Considered Harmful Jay R. Ashworth (Oct 29)
- Re: Spam Control Considered Harmful Phil Lawlor (Oct 29)
- Re: Spam Control Considered Harmful Joe Shaw (Oct 30)
- Re: Spam Control Considered Harmful Barry Shein (Oct 30)
- RE: Spam Control Considered Harmful Jordan Mendelson (Oct 28)
- Re: Spam Control Considered Harmful Cal Thixton - President - ThoughtPort Authority of Chicago (Oct 29)
- Re: Spam Control Considered Harmful Jon Lewis (Oct 29)
- Re: Spam Control Considered Harmful Cal Thixton - President - ThoughtPort Authority of Chicago (Oct 30)
- Re: Spam Control Considered Harmful John R. Levine (Oct 31)
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