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Re: NSP ... New Information
From: Paul A Vixie <paul () vix com>
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 01:37:20 -0700
I asked for this and was treated like a complete idiot. There are a lot of small blocks in legacy space that I'd like to see some system for transferring between small guys who never used them and small guys who desperately need PI space for multihoming. Using DNS TTL fields is just ridiculous when there are much better technical solutions like, uh, BGP.
BGP isn't better. You don't need BGP for multihoming. My SF NANOG talk was on exactly this topic. If you get a little bit of PA space from each provider, and run a multihomed server (or a whole pile of them) with the "interface default" mods we made available, you don't need BGP at all. ftp://ftp.vix.com/pub/vixie/ifdefault/ is the place to look for this. I just stuck a copy of my SF NANOG slides in there (SOB, please take note!)
A lot of people I know don't need /19s and don't want to waste the space (people have already mentioned this). Also, there is no incentive for returning IPv4 space if you know it'll just sit idle anyway.
Sure there is. It's called "not fouling your own nest." If you're not using it, and it's too small to be routable by modern providers, then you should give it back and let someone else try to aggregate it.
Current thread:
- Re: NSP ... New Information Eric Germann (Jun 04)
- Re: NSP ... New Information Phil Howard (Jun 04)
- Re: NSP ... New Information Miguel A.L. Paraz (Jun 05)
- Re: NSP ... New Information Stephen A Misel (Jun 05)
- Re: NSP ... New Information Michael Dillon (Jun 08)
- Re: NSP ... New Information Tung-Hui Hu (Jun 08)
- Re: NSP ... New Information Bill Manning (Jun 08)
- 192/8 (was Re: NSP ... New Information ) Suzanne Woolf (Jun 08)
- Re: 192/8 (was Re: NSP ... New Information ) Matthew Petach (Jun 08)
- Re: NSP ... New Information George Herbert (Jun 10)
- Re: NSP ... New Information Miguel A.L. Paraz (Jun 05)
- Re: NSP ... New Information Paul A Vixie (Jun 10)
- multihoming without BGP Tung-Hui Hu (Jun 10)
- Re: multihoming without BGP Paul A Vixie (Jun 10)
- Re: multihoming without BGP Robert E. Seastrom (Jun 10)
- Re: multihoming without BGP Dean Gaudet (Jun 11)
- Re: NSP ... New Information Phil Howard (Jun 04)
- Re: NSP ... New Information David Holub (Jun 08)
- Re: NSP ... New Information David Holub (Jun 08)
- Re: NSP ... New Information Larry Vaden (Jun 08)
- Re: NSP ... New Information Randy Bush (Jun 08)
- Re: NSP ... New Information Larry Vaden (Jun 08)
- Re: NSP ... New Information Jeremy Porter (Jun 08)