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Re: New Denial of Service Attack on Panix
From: Paul Ferguson <pferguso () cisco com>
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 14:57:42 -0400
I would personally like to see this topic added as an agenda item at the upcoming Ann Arbor NANOG meeting. At least a brief discussion of conventional wisdom (filter on valid source prefixes at periphery, etc.) should be in order. - paul At 04:14 PM 9/16/96 -0700, Kent W. England wrote:
Dear NANOG/IEPG Folks; As you should know by now from reading the papers, Panix, the first ISP in NYC, has come under a new denial of service attack. The Wall Street Journal quoted Bill Cheswick to the effect that the attack is "unstoppable". Almost, but not quite, true. It's true that there isn't anything that Panix can do on its own to stop this attack. It's true that it would be hard to verify source addresses at MAEs and NAPs. But we could all verify source addresses at the first hop entry points. And get default route and unauthorized transit protection to
boot.
I'd like to know what the community thinks can be done to deal with an escalation of these attacks should this occur. Are you doing any source address verification now? Are you doing anything to help Panix? Could you? How seriously do you take this threat? If Panix were to go out of business and Bob Metcalfe wrote a column on it, ( :-) do you think we would have to deal with it together then, or can we sit tight and expect it to blow over? After all, it's easy to dump chemicals in the reservoir, but we still drink the water, right? Thanks. --Kent ~~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~ Kent W. England Six Sigma Networks 1655 Landquist Drive, Suite 100 Voice/Fax: 619.632.8400 Encinitas, CA 92024 kwe () 6SigmaNets com Experienced Internet Consulting ~~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~
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- Re: New Denial of Service Attack on Panix, (continued)
- Re: New Denial of Service Attack on Panix jefF rizzO (Sep 17)
- Re: New Denial of Service Attack on Panix Perry E. Metzger (Sep 17)
- SYN floods Michael Dillon (Sep 17)
- Re: New Denial of Service Attack on Panix Perry E. Metzger (Sep 17)
- Re: New Denial of Service Attack on Panix Jerry Scharf (Sep 17)
- Re: New Denial of Service Attack on Panix Guy T Almes (Sep 17)
- Re: New Denial of Service Attack on Panix Ken Lindahl (Sep 17)
- Re: New Denial of Service Attack on Panix Joel Gallun (Sep 17)
- Re: New Denial of Service Attack on Panix Avi Freedman (Sep 17)
- Re: New Denial of Service Attack on Panix George Herbert (Sep 17)
- Re: New Denial of Service Attack on Panix Joel Gallun (Sep 17)
- Re: New Denial of Service Attack on Panix Avi Freedman (Sep 17)
- Re: New Denial of Service Attack on Panix Michael Dillon (Sep 17)
- Re: New Denial of Service Attack on Panix bmanning (Sep 17)
- Re: New Denial of Service Attack on Panix: Avi Freedman (Sep 17)
- Re: New Denial of Service Attack on Panix Dick St.Peters (Sep 17)
- Re[2]: New Denial of Service Attack on Panix Brian Murrell (Sep 17)