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Re: Intra/Inter - was Inet-II
From: swolff () cisco com (Stephen Wolff)
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 07:16:46 -0400
Vadim is right, in that peering and transit restrictions are *address-based* and hence enforceable by routers, whilst AUPs are *content-based* and so absolutely unenforceable by technical means. In this regard, AUPs are like *most* laws in the non-virtual world - e.g., laws against speeding, unleashed dogs, homicide, fraud, etc. - in that the behavior which they proscribe cannot in even the most elementally free society be prevented; they rely instead for their observance on a (largely unwritten) social contract between netizens and network providers, and infractions can only be punished not prevented. And just as only a fraction of all crimes are noticed and reported, and only a fraction of them in the end punished, so it is with AUP violations. Corporate intranets generally have exceedingly strict AUPs, and some infractions can be punished by dismissal; AUPs are in fact very common. The remarkable feature of the old NSFNET AUP was NOT the number of times it was violated, but rather the lengths to which an extraordinary number of decent corporate and private netizens went to ensure its observance. I promulgated it and I know. *Whenever* there is public funding of *any* activity, an AUP is attached to oulaw the misuse of taxpayer money. Internet II is not exempt. Some say that acceptance of an AUP is too high a price to pay in circumscription of personal liberty for the benefits of public funding. I understand and respect that view, but I don't agree. -s Stephen Wolff Business Development ciscoSystems 202 337 1213 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
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- Re: Intra/Inter - was Inet-II Vadim Antonov (Oct 10)
- Re: Intra/Inter - was Inet-II Alan Hannan (Oct 10)
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- Re: Intra/Inter - was Inet-II Alan Hannan (Oct 11)
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- Re: Intra/Inter - was Inet-II maillists (Oct 11)
- Re: Intra/Inter - was Inet-II William Allen Simpson (Oct 11)
- Re: Intra/Inter - was Inet-II Vadim Antonov (Oct 11)
- Re: Intra/Inter - was Inet-II Paul Ferguson (Oct 12)
- Re: Intra/Inter - was Inet-II Bill Manning (Oct 12)
- Re: Intra/Inter - was Inet-II John G. Scudder (Oct 12)
- Re: Intra/Inter - was Inet-II bmanning (Oct 14)
- Re: Intra/Inter - was Inet-II John G. Scudder (Oct 14)
- Re: Intra/Inter - was Inet-II Havard . Eidnes (Oct 14)
- Re: Intra/Inter - was Inet-II Curtis Villamizar (Oct 14)