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Re: Policy Statement on Address Space Allocations
From: Nick Hilliard <nh () ireland eu net>
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 15:23:58 +0000 (GMT)
There were a couple of methods suggested here: preemptive hijacking - voluntary return - periodic fees - Hijacking has a number of interesting problems Periodic fees will take a year or more to implement Voluntary return can be done -now-. Which method is the least stressfull and has reasonable impact on the existing routing table crunch?
That depends completely on whether you're firefighting the current urgent problem, or else taking steps to ensure that it's not going to happen in future. Ideally both courses of action should be taken. We're simply discussing what the long term approach should be. Hijacking is not an option. This would *really* mean the end of the Internet as we know it, and there really would be news at 11! :-) Voluntary return is a really good idea, but it relies on good-will (and good manners) to get a return. And I'm quite surprised that there were as many as 15% of prefixes returned in such a short space of time. But periodic fees or some similar scheme is necessary. The matter really boils down to two different psychologies: a) The IANA IP number allocations stay in effect until otherwise notified, or b) The IANA IP number allocations only stay in effect as long as the IANA are kept informed that they are still in use. Voluntary return assumes a), and periodic fees (or similar) assumes b). a) will get a certain amount of response in the short term, and after that, the response will be quite low. b), on the other hand, will gain a very high response in the short term, and as-high-as-is-possible reponse in the long term, albeit at the cost of setting up the administrivia to ensure that the scheme worked. It's a much more aggressive approach, and it may upset some people initially, but long term, it could well turn out to be the only viable option.
There are a wide range of viable alternatives to paying the InterNIC fees.
Perhaps, but any system which might be implemented to return IP allocations will take time, effort and hence money. That the InterNIC should be paid for their efforts is not unreasonable. Nick
Current thread:
- Re: Policy Statement on Address Space Allocations, (continued)
- Re: Policy Statement on Address Space Allocations George Herbert (Feb 01)
- Re: Policy Statement on Address Space Allocations Curtis Villamizar (Jan 31)
- Re: Policy Statement on Address Space Allocations Jon Zeeff (Feb 01)
- Re: Policy Statement on Address Space Allocations Bill Manning (Feb 01)
- Re: Policy Statement on Address Space Allocations Jon Zeeff (Feb 01)
- Re: Policy Statement on Address Space Allocations Bill Manning (Feb 01)
- Re: Policy Statement on Address Space Allocations Jon Zeeff (Feb 01)
- Re: Policy Statement on Address Space Allocations Bill Manning (Feb 01)
- Re: Policy Statement on Address Space Allocations Nick Hilliard (Feb 02)
- Re: Policy Statement on Address Space Allocations Bill Manning (Feb 02)
- Re: Policy Statement on Address Space Allocations Nick Hilliard (Feb 02)
- Re: Policy Statement on Address Space Allocations Michael Dillon (Feb 02)
- Re: Policy Statement on Address Space Allocations Iljitsch van Beijnum (Feb 02)
- Re: Policy Statement on Address Space Allocations Curtis Villamizar (Feb 02)
- Re: Policy Statement on Address Space Allocations bmanning (Feb 02)
- Re: Policy Statement on Address Space Allocations Curtis Villamizar (Feb 02)
- Re: Policy Statement on Address Space Allocations Jon Zeeff (Feb 01)
- Re: Policy Statement on Address Space Allocations Edward Henigin (Feb 14)
- Re: Policy Statement on Address Space Allocations mike (Feb 16)
- Re: Policy Statement on Address Space Allocations Geoff Huston (Feb 01)
- Re: Policy Statement on Address Space Allocations Howard Berkowitz (Feb 02)
- Re: Policy Statement on Address Space Allocations David Miller (Feb 02)