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Re: ATM Utility
From: Pushpendra Mohta <pushp () CERF NET>
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 23:28:11 -0800 (PST)
Curtis Villamizar writes:
In message <9411080848.AA16753 () uh msc edu>, Tim Salo writes:Most ATM pricing I have seen has a "committed information rate" component, which assures a minimum available bandwidth. This is not the "metered" pricing to which you are responding. -tjsTim, None of us has tried to hook up a small business or our PeeCee at home to an ATM netwpork and see if setting up and SVC to ftp.*.* at some low rate is proportional to the cost of asking for a PVC at 10s of Mb/s, for obvious reasons (no one offers it - in case anyone can't see the obvious reasons). It might end up being orders of magnitude cheaper to get some other type of connection to an IP provider below some bandwidth threshhold than an ATM connection and paying per SVC. For example, it is quite easy to exceed $1,000/mo using IP over POTs or IP over ISDN with usage sensitive billing (within the same city), while a leased circuit would be far cheaper. I have existance proof of that (both involve home use). Curtis
There is a distinction to be made here between 1. IP vs ATM and 2. IP over ATM. I think you are talking about 1, and I agree. But Vadim and Tim were talking about 2. Yes, PPP over SONET will give you better utilization of the link, but building a 3-4 node mesh network is going to be cheaper with fast packet services ( ATM/SMDS/Frame Relay ) than with point to point links. We have implemented quite a few of these meshes. The only place point to point links will be more cost effective are when you absolutely need the entire bandwidth of each point to point link. As to metered vs unmetered service, it will always be cheaper to go unmetered beyond a certain threshold of usage. Some fast packet service vendors I know of cap their metered usage within a few % ( ~20 ) of what they would charged if you would have opted for flat rate unmetered service. At the IP service level, some ISPs ( CERFnet, for example ) will offer both a metered and flat rate version of the same switched access service. --pushpendra Pushpendra Mohta pushp () cerf net +1 619 455 3908 Director of Engineering +1 800 876 2373 CERFNet - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Current thread:
- Re: ATM Utility bmanning (Oct 31)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: ATM Utility Jon 'Iain' Boone (Nov 01)
- Re: ATM Utility Karl Denninger (Nov 01)
- Re: ATM Utility Pushpendra Mohta (Nov 01)
- Re: ATM Utility Bob Doyle (Nov 02)
- Re: ATM Utility Pushpendra Mohta (Nov 02)
- Re: ATM Utility Tim Salo (Nov 08)
- Re: ATM Utility Tim Salo (Nov 08)
- Re: ATM Utility Curtis Villamizar (Nov 08)
- Re: ATM Utility Pushpendra Mohta (Nov 08)
- Re: ATM Utility Curtis Villamizar (Nov 08)
- Re: ATM Utility Vadim Antonov (Nov 08)
- Re: ATM Utility Pushpendra Mohta (Nov 08)