re Top Voting Machine Vendor Admits It Installed Remote-Access Software on Systems Sold to States

["Dave Farber" <farber () gmail com>]

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> From: Joly MacFie <joly.nyc () gmail com>
> Date: July 18, 2018 at 14:34:57 GMT+9
> To: dave <dave () farber net>
> Cc: ip <ip () listbox com>
> Subject: Re: [IP] re Top Voting Machine Vendor Admits It Installed Remote-Access Software on Systems Sold to States
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> Yesterday I streamed an event "Protecting New York' of which one panel was pretty much entirely devoted to election 
> security.
> https://livestream.com/InternetSociety3/protectingny/videos/177812488
> https://livestream.com/InternetSociety3/protectingny/videos/177818676
>
> Something I learnt from it,thanks to NY Senator Liz Krueger (30 mins in in the first clip) , is that NY held off 
> upgrading to electronic machines til 2010, despite being mandated to do so  by the  Help America Vote Act of 2002 aka 
> HAVA, precisely because they considered them hackable. The compromise -- and according to Sen Krueger NY is the only 
> state that does this -- was to use machines that are not networked whatsoever, and include two distinct forms of vote 
> storage. One that is removed and used to tally votes, and another that is solely used for auditing, along with paper.
>
> At 37 mins, she talks about how NY regulators were very much influenced by anecdotes about how first year college CS 
> students easily hacked Ohio's systems. 
>
> joly
>
> > On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 10:24 PM, Dave Farber <farber () gmail com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Begin forwarded message:
> >
> > > From: Rahul Tongia <tongia.cmu () gmail com>
> > > Date: July 18, 2018 at 11:21:59 GMT+9
> > > To: David Farber <dave () farber net>
> > > Cc: ip <ip () listbox com>
> > > Subject: Re: [IP] Top Voting Machine Vendor Admits It Installed Remote-Access Software on Systems Sold to States
> > >
> > > Dave,
> > >
> > > It seems the problem isn't electronic voting machines per se. 
> > >
> > > It's machines made by for profit entities that refuse oversight/audit and also are often controlled by partisan 
> > > stakeholders. 
> > >
> > > Rahul
> > >
> > > Sent from my handheld... pardon my brevity if not poor grammar
> > >
> > > > On Wed, Jul 18, 2018, 7:31 AM Dave Farber <farber () gmail com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Begin forwarded message:
> > > > >
> > > > > From: Richard Forno <rforno () infowarrior org>
> > > > > Subject: Top Voting Machine Vendor Admits It Installed Remote-Access Software on Systems Sold to States
> > > > > Date: July 18, 2018 at 2:19:36 AM GMT+9
> > > > > To: Infowarrior List <infowarrior () attrition org>
> > > > > Cc: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Top Voting Machine Vendor Admits It Installed Remote-Access Software on Systems Sold to States
> > > > > Kim Zetter
> > > > >
> > > > > Jul 17 2018, 8:00am
> > > > >
> > > > > https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/mb4ezy/top-voting-machine-vendor-admits-it-installed-remote-access-software-on-systems-sold-to-states
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>
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