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Re Almost half of Republicans want war with North Korea, a new poll says. Is it the Trump Effect? - The Washington Post
From: "Dave Farber" <farber () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2017 06:43:29 -0400
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From: Geoff Kuenning <geoff () cs hmc edu> Date: October 16, 2017 at 2:51:06 AM EDT To: dave () farber net Cc: "ip" <ip () listbox com> Subject: Re: [IP] Re Almost half of Republicans want war with North Korea, a new poll says. Is it the Trump Effect? - The Washington Post I suspect that most ordinary Americans, and especially those predisposed towards a first strike, live in a fantasy world where nuclear bombs are simultaneously surgical (they only destroy what you want to destroy, and have minor side effects outside the blast radius) and all-destructive (a few well-placed nukes would eliminate all of North Korea, including all of their weapons). In that world, Seoul and Tokyo wouldn't be at risk. The average American isn't capable of doing the simple calculation that shows that with a four-mile blast radius, around 1,000 H-bombs would be needed to flatten the country. (I was surprised it's that small; NK is a tiny place.) Still, that's about 2/3 of our current deployed stockpile of strategic warheads. If we wanted to prevent North Korea from attacking Seoul and Tokyo, the bombs would have to explode pretty much simultaneously, and catch the conventional forces by surprise so they couldn't launch their rockets before the incoming missiles landed--highly unlikely, since they're on hair-trigger alert, and some of the attack would have to come from bombers. And that assumes no hardened bunkers, of course. Donald Trump, who probably has never heard of pi-r-squared, certainly falls into the "can't do the calculation" category.Begin forwarded message:From: John Day <jeanjour () comcast net> Date: October 15, 2017 at 3:44:16 PM EDT To: Dave Farber <farber () gmail com> Subject: Re: [IP] Almost half of Republicans want war with North Korea, a new poll says. Is it the Trump Effect? - The Washington Post I don’t know about using this without his permission. It was Mike’s post on Facebook. But he makes a good point that should get wider coverage. "I have come to the conclusion that nobody within Uber-distance of the White House has considered the economic impact on the *US* of the destruction of South Korean high-tech manufacturing. Let's make a short list... "Most of the LCD manufacturing capacity in the world A huge fraction, maybe the majority, of Flash fab capacity Large fraction of both DRAM and SRAM fab capacity Significant fraction of ASICs & SOCs for Smartfones Large fraction of all Smartfones & other mobile phones World's largest shipyard (yes, that's hi-tech these days) "Depending on the device, these generalizations can hit much, much harder in specific cases that we all know and love. "When you look at this list and ponder how many things and companies would take a massive blow to the head, and how there has never been any mention made of this in the media, it sure makes me wonder whether anyone is looking at the big picture."On Oct 15, 2017, at 15:29, Dave Farber <farber () gmail com> wrote: Please send it to me On Oct 15, 2017, at 3:28 PM, John Day <jeanjour () comcast net> wrote: Did you see Mike O’Dell’s comment on what happens to South Korea if that happens and the impact that has on the US high tech economy?On Oct 15, 2017, at 15:23, DAVID FARBER <dfarber () me com> wrote: Begin forwarded message: From: Herb Lin <herblin () stanford edu> Date: October 15, 2017 at 2:10:43 PM EDT To: "ip () listbox com" <ip () listbox com>, Dave Farber <dave () farber net> Subject: Almost half of Republicans want war with North Korea, a new poll says. Is it the Trump Effect? - The Washington Post Noted without comment. Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/10/14/almost-half-of-republicans-want-war-with-north-korea-says-a-new-poll-is-it-the-trump-effect/?utm_term=.7bac90036d79 Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphoneArchives | Modify Your Subscription | Unsubscribe Now-- Geoff Kuenning geoff () cs hmc edu http://www.cs.hmc.edu/~geoff/ The P in "PDF" is a lie.
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