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Re New Trump Deportation Rules
From: "Dave Farber" <farber () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2017 18:14:04 -0500
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From: Paul Alan Levy <plevy () citizen org> Date: February 22, 2017 at 5:38:05 PM EST To: "dave () farber net" <dave () farber net>, ip <ip () listbox com> Subject: RE: [IP] Re New Trump Deportation Rules “we need to change birthright citizenship” My former client Ron Riley wants to amend the Fourteenth Amendment? That part of our constitution provides (Section 1, first sentence) “All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.” Wholly apart from the fact that the plain meaning of this sentence is that the children of immigrants, if born in the United States, are citizens, if the Fourteenth Amendment did NOT mean that birth within the US meant citizenship regardless of whether the child’s parents were citizens, it would not have succeeded in ensuring that the freed slaves, born in the United States, would be considered citizens. Ron’s apparent racism aside (it’s the white immigrants who are desirable), I am not persuaded that starting to amend the basic civil rights amendments adopted after the Civil War is a good idea Paul Alan Levy Public Citizen Litigation Group 1600 20th Street, NW Washington, D.C. 20009 (202) 588-7725 http://www.citizen.org/Page.aspx?pid=396 Twitter: @paulalanlevy Public Citizen Foundation participates in the Combined Federal Campaign with the CFC Code 11168 From: Dave Farber [mailto:farber () gmail com] Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 4:53 PM To: ip Subject: [IP] Re New Trump Deportation Rules As I said I present all sides Begin forwarded message: From: "RJR-rjriley" <rjr () rjriley com> Date: February 22, 2017 at 4:49:30 PM EST To: <dave () farber net> Subject: RE: [IP] New Trump Deportation Rules There is no reason that we cannot speed up legit immigration, from more desirable sources. Also, we can issue work permits without an easy path to citizenship. We also need to change birthright citizenship to one requiring one parent to be a citizen or to be naturalized before their child turns 18, and then confer citizenship to the child. For example, there are lots of people in Europe, well educated, with desirable skills who would love to flee the problems created by Muslims who refuse to assimilate. There is no innate right to be Allowed into America. Ronald J Riley From: Dave Farber [mailto:farber () gmail com] Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 1:31 PM To: ip Subject: [IP] New Trump Deportation Rules Begin forwarded message: From: "Evers Ridgely C." <rce () evers org> Date: February 22, 2017 at 1:17:57 PM EST To: Farber David <dave () farber net> Subject: New Trump Deportation Rules Dave, For IP if you wish. New Trump Deportation Rules Allow Far More Expulsions This is remarkably (terrifyingly?) sweeping in its construct. From the actual order (italics mine): Department personnel should prioritize removable aliens who: (1) have been convicted of any criminal offense; (2) have been charged with any criminal offense that has not been resolved; (3) have committed acts which constitute a chargeable criminal offense; (4) have engaged in fraud or willful misrepresentation in connection with any official matter before a governmental agency; (5) have abused any program related to receipt of public benefits; (6) are subject to a final order of removal but have not complied with their legal obligation to depart the United States; or (7) in the judgment of an immigration officer, otherwise pose a risk to public safety or national security. The Director of ICE, the Commissioner of CBP, and the Director of USCIS may, as they determine is appropriate, issue further guidance to allocate appropriate resources to prioritize enforcement activities within these categories - for example, by prioritizing enforcement activities against removable aliens who are convicted felons or who are involved in gang activity or drug trafficking. Note that being in the US without permission is a "chargeable criminal offense" (condition #3) Basically, therefore, this tasks ICE with kicking out pretty much everyone who is undocumented, with the exception of DREAMers. I live in an agricultural area, where the vast majority of workers are immigrants, mostly undocumented. Many have children born in the US, who have US citizenship but not Mexican citizenship (for example), so the children cannot just "go to Mexico." The families are terrified that they will be separated – and not without evidence to support that fear. We know people who, in the past two weeks, have had a parent targeted, arrested, and deported without hearing. –Ridge This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com Archives | Modify Your Subscription | Unsubscribe Now
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