Re: Comcast's "Evil Bot" Scanning Project (Lauren Weinstein)

[Dave Farber <dave () farber net>]

Begin forwarded message:

> From: "Woundy, Richard" <Richard_Woundy () cable comcast com>
> Date: October 12, 2009 18:58:32 EDT
> To: "David P. Reed" <dpreed () reed com>
> Cc: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>, Chris Yoo <csyoo () law upenn edu>,  
> "Livingood, Jason" <Jason_Livingood () cable comcast com>, "Woundy,  
> Richard" <Richard_Woundy () cable comcast com>
> Subject: RE: [ NNSquad ] Re: Comcast's "Evil Bot" Scanning Project   
> (Lauren Weinstein)

> I dropped some parties from this email.
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> David Reed wrote:
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> >The point I was making is the *role of Comcast* with respect to  
> customers' computers, law enforcement, etc.
> …
> >To argue that Comcast should (without opt-in from customers) begin  
> tracking their traffic, making presumptive inferences from pattern  
> matching, and then *interfere* with a users' use, argued on the  
> basis of "theft" is a very interesting argument from a legal and  
> societal point.
> …
>
> >Is it wrong? Perhaps after a debate we will see.  Is it Comcast's  
> proper role?  Perhaps after a debate we will see.
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> This is a fair debate to have.
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> Here are some additional viewpoints I’ve collected today:
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> http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/247/2009/10/sort/time_rev/page/1/entry/2:99/20091012140749:24B6EB56-B75A-11DE-B6B8-944E25180BC3/
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> http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/247/2009/10/sort/time_rev/page/1/entry/0:99/20091012173554:36A13584-B777-11DE-B21E-A8639E369A9E/
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> These are recent posts to the IP list from Jonathan Zittrain and  
> Steve Bellovin about Comcast botnet mitigation. Both posts seem to  
> be very well thought out. Steve has really good advice about  
> including an “easy … recourse in event of misclassification”  
> and “regular reviews by an outside advisory board”.
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> http://threatpost.com/blogs/google-exec-calls-isps-get-tough-botnets-123
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> This is an interesting perspective from a Google security executive,  
> Eric Davis. Eric made these comments not long before Comcast  
> announced its security initiative.
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> http://cfp.mit.edu/events/oct08/presentations/Defending%20the%20host%20ddc-1.pdf
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> This is David Clark’s slide deck from October 2008 (MIT CFP meeting) 
>  on “Who will tame the Wild West?”
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> -- Rich



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