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Comcast's "Evil Bot" Scanning Project (Lauren Weinstein)
From: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 14:03:08 -0400
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From: John Levine <johnl () iecc com> Date: October 10, 2009 13:33:21 EDT To: dave () farber net Cc: "David P. Reed" <dpreed () reed com>, lauren () vortex comSubject: Re: [IP] Re: Comcast's "Evil Bot" Scanning Project (Lauren Weinstein)
I don't see where Comcast is being transparent about *how* they do this, or giving customers a chance to opt-in or -out.Right. Do you suppose there's a reason they'd rather not publish instructions to tell bot writers how to circumvent their defenses? If you're wondering how their sandbox works, look at the I-D they sent in last week.If I send a lot of email, why does that make me a "bot"? Maybe I justsend a lot of email.It doesn't. As others have noted, it's not hard to tell bot behavior from heavy user behavior.But to be honest, in most markets, Comcast is the only real choice, and imposing their "features" on me might not be what I want, ...Ah yes, "ISPs musn't deal with dangerous software installed on their networks by criminals because it might, hypothetically, inconvenience me." Get real. This is not a few script kiddies. This is sophisticated criminal malware that does things like rewriting online bank transcations in real time to steal money from users' accounts, and DDoS ecommerce sites in extortion schemes. It would be irresponsible for large ISPs like Comcast NOT to use whatever tools they have to deal with it. R's, John
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