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Security and Pittsburgh's Airport
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 19:15:27 -0400
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From: Vadim Antonov <avg () kotovnik com> Date: May 12, 2008 6:57:15 PM EDT To: David Farber <dave () farber net> Cc: ip <ip () v2 listbox com> Subject: Re: [IP] Security and Pittsburgh's Airport
David -- just to make it clear - deer on the airfield are a very serioussafety issue. Much more serious than all terrorists in the world - thelikelihood of hitting a deer and wrecking the landing gear (with likelyfatal outcome for the pilot and passeners) is much higher than being a victim of a terrorist attack. And this is not like "no one knows whothese people are", they have to be escorted by a cleared airport employee.Besides, "non-authorized" personnel can easily walk onto airfield through the general aviation parking and FBOs in *all* US airports. As a member ofa flying club I got codes to combination locks on gates in differentairports, so I can pick up aircraft during off-hours - and I didn't have to go through any clearance process. I can easily bring firearms, too, - no one's looking, and it is not prohibited (i.e. one can rent an airplane to go for a hunting trip). The only "guns prohibited" signs I've seen in GA areas are at the entrances to the federal facilities such as control towers, radar sites, etc. Heck, I do not even have to show my ID to getkeys to an aircraft, as long as I know the name under which thereservation has been made, the a/c registration number, and smile nicely.The "access to airfield" controls are security theater, plain and simple,designed mostly to impress and intimidate the sheepie. It is nearly impossible (and prohibitively expensive) to secure a civilian airfieldagainst an intruder which has minimal tactical and camouflage skills (and a bolt cutter, if he's too lazy to climb over the fence), so no one reallytries.So this article should be read as a barely covered pimping for more funds to TSA (and more useless restrictions and hassle for the rest of us), andnot as a valid alert about some new security threat or especially laxattitude of the airport administration, with obligatory anti-gun paranoiamixed in for a good measure. Regards, --vadim On Mon, 12 May 2008, David Farber wrote:Begin forwarded message:From: K.E. <admin () edu-cyberpg com> Date: May 12, 2008 2:49:16 PM EDT To: "ip () v2 listbox com" <ip () v2 listbox com>, David Farber <dave () farber netSubject: Security and Pittsburgh's AirportThe airport is restricted private property but if you know someone and get your name on the list and go shoot animals. Video: Hunting On Pittsburgh International Airport Property Favorite Quotes: The airport should have a professional wildlife biologist on site, as have many other major airports, including Philadelphia and Cleveland. Those airports contract with the USDA for that service. Pittsburgh does not. Allegheny County Airport Authority gave 28 of its employees exclusive rights to hunt deer on its 9,000 acres in and around Findlay Township. You can carry a gun and shoot . You can even bring your friends with you and no one at the airport knows who those people are. http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/16192688/detail.html "The airport authority allows those 28 authorized employees to bring buddies along, and officials have no idea who those buddies are. We do not track the names of the guests," Jenny said. Just how many deer live on the airport's 9,000 acres is unknown, because according to a 2007 USDA document, the airport authority has never commissioned a deer density survey. Even without the study, the USDA says current density far exceeds the recommended five-to-12 deer per square mile. Karen Ellis<б╘ >~~~~~<б╘ >~~~~~<б╘ >~~~~~<б╘ >~~~~~<б╘ >~~~~~< б╘ >The Educational CyberPlayGround http://www.edu-cyberpg.com/ National Children's Folksong Repository http://www.edu-cyberpg.com/NCFR/ Educational CyberPlayGround Blog http://blog.edu-cyberpg.com/ Net Happenings, K12 Newsletters, Network Newsletters http://www.edu-cyberpg.com/Community/ 7 Hot Site Awards New York Times, USA Today , MSNBC, Earthlink, USA Today Best Bets For Educators, Macworld Top Fifty<б╘ >~~~~~<б╘ >~~~~~<б╘ >~~~~~<б╘ >~~~~~<б╘ >~~~~~< б╘ >------------------------------------------- Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now RSS Feed: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/ Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
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