Re: Music industry proposes a piracy surcharge on ISPs

[David Farber <dave () farber net>]

Clearly I take exception to th 4th pragraph but.. Any way jf
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From: Jim Griffin [griffin () onehouse com]
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 10:46 AM
To: David Farber
Subject: RE: [IP] Music industry proposes a piracy surcharge on ISPs

Dave:

I am singled out in the article but did not cooperate with it and do not
think it fully reflects the concept.

But let me be clear that it is not contemplated as a tax, has nothing
whatsoever to do with government and is voluntary for the ISPs.

It is in many ways similar to music licensing for radio, restaurants or
hotel lobbies, and is a time-honored way to bring a resolution to the legal
struggles that are even now seeing students and network users sued.

If you think discourse is personally calling something "bullsh_t" at the top
of an article, then I have little further interest in your comments or this
list (which I have enjoyed for many years), but if you're interested in a
civil discussion I am game for that.

Absent some form of licensing, you're for continuing the current ruinous
course that threatens both culture and many of its fans. I don't believe
that, so I think collective licensing discussions are in order. If for a
couple bucks a month we can enable unfettered innovation with music on
networks and allow access to *all* music on an equitable basis, including
P2P and whatever else will follow, I think it a fair price to pay.

Jim Griffin

-----Original Message-----
From: David Farber [mailto:dave () farber net]
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 9:57 AM
To: ip
Subject: [IP] Music industry proposes a piracy surcharge on ISPs

Personally this is BULL-SH_t.   Dave

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From: dewayne () warpspeed com (Dewayne Hendricks)
Date: March 13, 2008 5:47:49 PM EDT
To: Dewayne-Net Technology List <xyzzy () warpspeed com>
Subject: [Dewayne-Net] Music industry proposes a piracy surcharge on ISPs

Music industry proposes a piracy surcharge on ISPs Wired Magazine By Frank
Rose

Digital-strategy consultant Jim Griffin thinks ISPs should be made to
collect a music surcharge from broadband users to compensate the copyright
holders.

Having failed to stop piracy by suing internet users, the music industry is
for the first time seriously considering a file sharing surcharge that
internet service providers would collect from users.

In recent months, some of the major labels have warmed to a pitch by Jim
Griffin, one of the idea's chief proponents, to seek an extra fee on
broadband connections and to use the money to compensate rights holders for
music that's shared online. Griffin, who consults on digital strategy for
three of the four majors, will argue his case at what promises to be a
heated discussion Friday at South by Southwest.

"It's monetizing the anarchy," says Peter Jenner, head of the International
Music Manager's Forum, who plans to join Griffin on the panel.

Griffin's idea is to collect a fee from internet service providers --
something like $5 per user per month -- and put it into a pool that would be
used to compensate songwriters, performers, publishers and music labels. A
collecting agency would divvy up the money according to artists' popularity
on P2P sites, just as ASCAP and BMI pay songwriters for broadcasts and live
performances of their work.

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nt/music/news/2008/03/music_levy
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