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Re: Move over FISA Oversight
From: "Dave Farber" <dave () farber net>
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 08:18:15 +0900
-----Original Message----- From: Serge Egelman [mailto:egelman () cs cmu edu] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 1:04 PM To: dave () farber net Subject: Re: [IP] Move over FISA Oversight One question that I haven't seen anyone in the media ask: What does this new law allow them to do that they haven't *already* been doing? Since some in the Bush Administration have said this law is needed to legalize some of their surveillance programs, besides being a tacit admission to breaking the law, this would mean that they've already been doing some (or many) of the things that have just been legalized. serge Dave Farber wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: Malin, Bradley A [mailto:b.malin () Vanderbilt Edu] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 12:05 AM To: dave () farber net Subject: Move over FISA Oversight Sure, this is main stream news, but this law will have an incredible amount of influence on the collection and use of U.S. communications data (calls, emails, etc.). This law affects the intelligence community's ability to monitor communications with foreigners that are overseas, but I wonder when "probable cause" will allow them to sniff information that is in the U.S. For instance, if there is evidence to suggest that "foreigners" have adopted technology to use U.S. IP addresses (despite the fact that there are many legitimate reasons for U.S. citizens using such technology when abroad), will they be able to intercept and study such communications? The new law is set to expire after 6 months, but what about cases in which "sufficient evidence" (interpret that as you may) has been gathered? Will they be able to continue monitoring without judicial oversight? What will happen to the data that is gathered over the next six months? Can that be analyzed after the six month window? Are we creating a block of time in which the data lives in the Wild West? Just some thoughts to brighten our morning, -brad http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/08/07/terrorist.surveillance.ap/index.h tml New law changes U.S. eavesdropping rules WASHINGTON (AP) -- For the first time in nearly four decades, a senior intelligence official -- not a secretive federal court -- will have a decisive voice in whether Americans' communications can be monitored when they talk to foreigners overseas. The shift came over the weekend as Congress hustled through changes to the 1978 Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, known as FISA. The bill provides new powers to the National Security Agency to monitor communications that enter the United States and involve foreigners who are the subjects of a national security investigation. <snip> ------------------------------------------- Archives: http://v2.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now RSS Feed: http://v2.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/ Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
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