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Re: Comcast Cuts Off Heavy Internet Users
From: David Farber <dfarber () cs cmu edu>
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 21:31:38 -0400
Begin forwarded message: From: Brett Glass <brett () lariat net> Date: August 26, 2007 7:02:09 PM EDT To: dave () farber net, ip () v2 listbox com Subject: Re: [IP] Re: Comcast Cuts Off Heavy Internet Users R J Riley writes:
It seems to me that Comcast is using deceptive advertising and that their conduct should be subject to review by agencies like the FTC and also couldbe addressed with civil litigation. Perhaps someone with legal trainingshould look into the legality of advertising unlimited use and then arbitrarily cutting off service.
Here's the problem, from an Internet provider's point of view. The moment
an explicit cap is set, a competitors can offer a larger one... and another one can offer one that's still larger, and so on. Pretty soon, everyone's back to "unlimited," which none of the providers can afford. So, rather than engaging in this sort of "competition," they try to act quietly. We don't play that game.Our company explicitly states that it shapes traffic (rather than cutting
users off, it merely holds them back) and publishes its traffic shaping policies. Users can measure the capacities of their connections and actually see that we're giving them what we promise. But we pay for our honesty when a competitor states the maximum speed ofthe modem as the user's speed. (Both the cable and telephone companies in
our area do this.) A business user says, "Wow -- 8 megabits per second over a cable modem for $150 per month is cheaper than you per megabit; I'll go with them." They test a connection, see it burst close to 8 Mbps during the test, and assume they'll always get that capacity. And they switch. We've lost three business customers this year due to this sort of situation. But if the business is really using 8 megabits per second, the cable company is taking a bath. Even with their great financial clout, they just cannot get backbone bandwidth for $20 per megabit per second in our state. No one can. So, at some point the cable company -- in this case, Bresnan -- must either throttle or lose money. We've resigned ourselves to letting go of the customers who really believe that they will be able to saturate an "8 Mbps" cable modem connection ($125/month) or a "7 Mbps" DSL connection ($69/month) 24x7. We figure that if our competitors are forced to live up to those claims, they'll take a loss, and that's good for us. And if they renege on those claims (which is more likely), we'll get the customer back in a few years. It's happened a few times already. But it's painful for a small business to lose customers and have to wait for the users' contracts to expire before they come back. It's just a shame that little guys like our small ISP have to try to compete with large companies' deceptive marketing tactics. --Brett Glass, LARIAT.NET ------------------------------------------- Archives: http://v2.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now RSS Feed: http://v2.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/ Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
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