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From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 07:38:57 -0400
Begin forwarded message: From: Tom Fairlie <tfairlie () frontiernet net> Date: June 9, 2006 9:54:18 PM EDT To: h_bray () globe com Subject: Re: [IP] more on Who they're spying on To Mr. Bray (and the others who might support his views), In the midst of an ill-planned and poorly executed "War on Terror" that has cost us approximately $300B so far and expects to rub shoulders with a trillion, you should be instead asking why we are so firmly committed to such a shaky enterprise to begin with. Was it the death toll on 9/11? I can't imagine why, since we never suitably investigated the crime to begin with, and there are many more significant causes of death in the U.S. In fact, there are more than 8,000 murders each and every year due to firearms and few people would spend $300B to solve that problem. Was it the economic loss on 9/11? Again, why on Earth would someone spend $300B to make up a loss that was an order of magnitude less? Was it the finger in our eye from Muslim extremists? Assuming that they were even involved (none of them was considered even an average pilot), how does it make sense to avenge the death of 3,000 people by sending 3,000 more to their death? (I didn't forget to include contractors and those in Afghanistan.) Even the argument that "they just hate us" is silly when you look at the number of times that we have poked our finger in their eye. Let's ignore the Crusades for a moment, and simply remember the 1950s, when we deposed Iran's prime minister after he foolishly tried to nationalize their oil industry. They had to endure 25 years under the Shah and his CIA-trained secret police and now we can't understand why Iran is so uppity. It's quite possible that people hate Americans, but I hate the National League and you'll never find me at a Giants/Cubs game with an IED. Let's all chill down a bit and focus on getting our own house in order before breaking and entering our neighbor's house, raiding his fridge, and calling him a loser. It would be easier, safer, and far cheaper to just invite the neighbor over for a beer. You don't have to love the guy. To respond to your last call for comments, I would like to add the following: I don't expect our law enforcement community-- at any level--to protect me from all harm. I don't want them scouring the purchasing habits of inner city youth to see when they're most likely to rob the convenience store I happen to visit; I don't want them checking the credit card payments of my middle class neighbors to determine when their houses will be robbed; and I certainly don't want them listening to my phone calls in case al Qaeda happens to be telemarketing. All of these crimes can be better prevented by removing the motives in the first place. Crime will never disappear, but time and time again we see that a country or community with a vibrant economy experiences a reduction in crime. Those who are most active in the terrorist community have no such hope and are fodder for the extremist elements that happily direct them. I see no reason to kill them or build a fence around my house when I can just as easily give them a pat on the back, a sandwich, and a job. I was taught in school that we were the richest and most noble country on the planet. Let's start acting that way. Tom Fairlie ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as lists-ip () insecure org To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/
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