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civil asset forfeiture
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 08:55:39 -0400
Begin forwarded message: From: Anton Sherwood <bronto () pobox com> Date: August 23, 2006 12:05:09 AM EDTTo: dave () farber net, Andreas Ramos <andreas () andreas com>, vgill () vijaygill com
Subject: civil asset forfeiture
From: Andreas Ramos <andreas () andreas com> Date: August 22, 2006 2:15:44 AM EDT
If local cops seize "drug assets", the forfeiture laws let the moneygo to them. So local cops have an incentive to seize "assets". This includes houses, cars, boats, cash, etc.Does it have to be drug assets? Well, to get it back, you have to prove that it is not drug related. That's federal court, and it can cost $50,000 or more in legal fees. . . .
Plus a deposit of some fraction of the value in question. I heard of one case where someone got his airplane back, found it had been ruined by neglect, and was billed for a storage fee.
It's not only federal, and it's not only drugs: it's any alleged criminal use of the property (by anyone). In one famous case the defendant was a car that was used to pick up prostitutes. The car belonged to a married couple; the wife litigated on the grounds that she shouldn't be punished (lose her half of the car) for her husband's offense. She lost 5-4 at the Supreme Court in 1996.
The property itself is the defendant in such cases, and since it's not a citizen it enjoys no presumption of innocence.
The Pittsburgh Press ran a famous series on the subject in 1991; the Web seems to have multiple copies. -- Anton Sherwood, http://www.ogre.nu/ "How'd ya like to climb this high *without* no mountain?" --Porky Pine ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as lists-ip () insecure org To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/
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