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more on quert on US unilateral control of ICANN backfires in WSIS.
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 10:06:15 -0400
Begin forwarded message: From: Brad Templeton <btm () templetons com> Date: October 3, 2005 3:39:57 AM EDT To: David Farber <dave () farber net> Cc: h_bray () globe comSubject: Re: [IP] more on quert on US unilateral control of ICANN backfires in WSIS.
On Sun, Oct 02, 2005 at 06:25:23PM -0400, David Farber wrote:
On Oct 2, 2005, at 6:05 PM, h_bray () globe com wrote:Somebody fill me in on this: If the US refuses to hand over control ofICANN, can anybody take it from us? If so, how?
It's a fun question. I detail a few answers at: http://www.templetons.com/brad/dns/howworks.html I also detail how you could build an "icann" that had no legal existence in _any_ jurisdiction with more modern technology. http://www.templetons.com/brad/dns/nojur.html But I will summarize. ICANN exists only because there is a natural monopoly on the root servers. Every machine on the internet that runs its own DNS server (which today means largely a system at every ISP and major corporation and institution, but people with their own servers at home like myself) has its own pre-compiled list of the root servers it will trust to find top-level domains. Your server has preset into it this list, and you use this list to ask, "where is the server for .com" and such. The server for .com in turn will tell you where to find globe.com and so on.This pre-compiled list comes from just a few sources. Most linux servers
use a program called "bind" now maintained by the internet systems consortium (isc.org) a nonprofit under the management of Paul Vixie. Other people run Windows and use the precompiled list from Microsoft.The problem is the natural monopoly. The power lies entirely in the hands
of the millions of individual servers. They could at any time switch toa new root list (and many have tried to use different root lists that try
to do everything the main root does and a bit more.) But the killer is they must all switch at once. If half the net uses one root, and the other half another root, and those roots disagree (rather than one being a superset of the other) then you get chaos. Half the world gets a different answer, potentially, for globe.com than the other half. Nobody wants that. So, in practice, getting everybody to switch at once would be a huge effort. You would need a lot of political will, a real groundswell of disapproval of ICANN to do it. But it could happen. However, if all the people in the world _except_ the USA were to switch to a new root, and the USA didn't like this, the other countries would probaby win. That's because unless the USA tried to order americans to use the USGov approved root list, most americans would switch to followthe rest of the world because again, it's not productive to have a split.
It's quite a thing to suggest ordering people to use a specific root.In theory it's a private choice the government should have no involvement
with.If there were a groundswell of support for a move, the next step would be for Paul Vixie and Bill Gates to go along with it and switch the defaults to the new servers. They would only do this, though, if they thought it was what their customers were asking them to do. They could not easily do it
by fiat. Vixie and Gates are of course subject to U.S. law. The USGovcould compel them not to do it, but boy would there be a stink about that,
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