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IP: Re: lawsuits


From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 09:04:35 -0400


Subject: Re: IP: lawsuits
To: farber () cis upenn edu
From: andrew () acequity com au
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 20:58:23 +0800
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I think there is a flaw in this counter argument.  The causes (if that is
the appropriate word) of terrorism are almost invariably disaffection with
government policies and actions.  It would seem to follow that throwing
full liability for security back on to the airlines is tantamount to
privatisation of the government's security obligations.  What special
concessions do the airlines get from the government that would justify the
government handing a significant part of its obligation to protect its
citizens over to one small part of the private sector?  If, as historically
appears to be the case, it is foreseeable that airlines will be a target
for terrorists, then the government could rightly be expected to contribute
to the security effort.

Whether even with higher security the hi-jackings could have been prevented
is a purely a matter of speculation.  We know these people were desparate,
and one way or another, desparation eventually gets what it wants.

That said, I am not in favour of limiting liability if negligence is found
- it's just that I think that in these situations liability, if it is found
to exist, goes further afield than some would have us believe.

Having raised the issue of government 'responsibility' for circumstances
that drive some lunatics to acts of terrorism, I think it is also worth
reflecting on the theme of some of the articles re-published on the IP list
(mostly from the UK, but one regrettably also from a fellow antipodean)
that in some way America, by virtue of its foreign policy, was partly to
blame for these acts.  I find this an extraordinary proposition.  I'm no
apologist for the USA, but isn't such a proposition little different to the
outrageous defence that a women in daring clothes is just asking to be
raped and should not be surprised when she is?  Certainly the USA, its
companies and citizens may have done questionable things abroad - but as
far as I am aware, none constituted what could reasonably be described as
indescriminate acts of violence against innocent people or a declaration of
war from behind a shroud of secrecy.  These actions may have merited a
response - but whatever that repsonse might have been, it should not have
been violence.  For anyone who even half merits the title 'civilsed', there
are at least a thousand non-violent responses.  Should America then have
anticipated an irrational response?  Almost by definition that is
impossible - and even if not a logical absurdity, who could possibly have
anticipated someting so inconceivable, so without precedent as what just
happened?



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