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IP: Re: Citibank's meaningless privacy notice: [risks] Risks Digest 21.40


From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 07:52:14 -0400



Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 15:46:21 -0400
From: Zygo Blaxell <zblaxell () genki hungrycats org>
Subject: Re: Citibank's meaningless privacy notice (Prevelakis, RISKS 21.38)

In other words, what you are saying is "information can be shared with group
A when box B is checked and group C when box B is not checked, therefore
information can be shared with group A or C regardless of the state of box
B."  That is true if and only if groups A and C have exactly the same
membership.

It is easy to get trapped in logical fallacies if one does not include the
legal context of contractual agreements in the analysis.

In reasonable jurisdictions(*), there are two classes of third parties:
those that Citibank can unconditionally share information with (e.g., law
enforcement officials), and those with whom Citibank cannot lawfully share
information without your permission.  Checking boxes on the appropriate form
would seem to be a reasonable indication of your desire to grant or deny
such permission, which would affect the legal status of certain third
parties.

Indeed, quoted sections of the Citibank agreement would seem to acknowledge
that this is the case, although other sections of the document would seem to
contradict this.  The Citibank privacy agreement seems to be written in no
language I can understand, whether legal, plain, or otherwise...

(*) Of course, I'm not making any assertion about whether Citibank is
actually located in a reasonable jurisdiction...



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