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Re: Web Defacement
From: "Alberto Cozer" <acozer () fti com br>
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 15:56:25 -0300
Although we do not have laws regarding specifically "hacking activities" in Brazil, we do have laws against break-ins, information theft and information damage. Of course no one will be prosecuted if your website was defaced but if you can prove that this defacement has been the cause of financial losses for your company you can suit the hacker that have defaced your website in order to make he pay for it. The main problem in a lawsuit regarding hacking activities is making the court accept the evidences. Logs can be forged. Best regards, Alberto. Alberto Cozer Security Outsource Manager, Future Technologies Digital Security IBM Certified AIX System Specialist Checkpoint Certified Security Expert, CCSE NG acozer () fti com br http://www.fti.com.br Ricardo Castanho de Oliveira Freitas To: Michel Angelo da Silva Pereira <michelpereira () netsite com br>, HggdH <rfreitas@english-qu <hggdh () attbi com> est.com.br> cc: Incidents <incidents () securityfocus com> Subject: Re: Web Defacement 14/02/2003 09:50 On Qui 13 Fev 2003 20:58, Michel Angelo da Silva Pereira wrote: Sorry to correct you but... being Brazilian also... I think I can! (being a ex- LDP-br translator I can tell that!) The original translation for the word "porra" is correct! Don't forget the context! Your translation will work out as an interjection, like those that you say when you step on dog "doo-doo" (easily found on streets! ;-) Your mileage may vary, though! ;-) So, the defacer's English is right! Not his behaviour though.... According to our legislation the great difference is that we don't "need" to have a specific law for electronic crimes, the closest match will do! As well as jurisprudence! Which at times is much 'stronger than the law" Meanwhile.... our legislators are working on a "more specific" code! As long damage (of any kind) and losses are implied... the "generic code" (law).... will do the job! IANAL, though! regards, Ricardo Castanho
Here on Brazil we dosen't have laws about hacking, there is one
project
on our congress to be approved, only problems with Credit Cards are
more
investigated. And the translation of the word "porra" is "shit" on
Brazil.
Bye HggdH wrote:"Esteve Aqui" means "Was Here". I did a quick search on them, and found http://www.brunopr.hpg.ig.com.br/index.htm, which might be Cybers
Satans
home page. I did not go deep -- it runs ActiveX (and I don't), but
the
"Guest Book" has, as first entry "Sat4an1c Br41n". There it is
said
he/she is 15 years old, and that he/she is the author of the web
("foi eu
que criei porra!" -- "was I that created dammit"). As far as I can remember, the verb is slightly wrong... Now, since it seems this web page is part of a free service
provided by
www.hpg.ig.com.br, then you have one more Id to complain about -- brunopr () hpg ig com br. Other entries show what might be a list of hacked pages, mostly
.gov.xx.
It is highly possible he/she is indeed 15 years old -- leaving
traces
everywhere, valid e-mail addresses, etc. I do not know about
Brazil's
laws on hacking, thou. ..hggdh..
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- S4T4N1C Web Defacement Christopher Lyon (Feb 13)
- Re: S4T4N1C Web Defacement Michel Angelo da Silva Pereira (Feb 13)
- Re: S4T4N1C Web Defacement HggdH (Feb 13)
- Re: S4T4N1C Web Defacement Michel Angelo da Silva Pereira (Feb 13)
- Re: Web Defacement Ricardo Castanho de Oliveira Freitas (Feb 14)
- Re: Web Defacement Alberto Cozer (Feb 17)
- Re: S4T4N1C Web Defacement security (Feb 14)
- Re: S4T4N1C Web Defacement Michel Angelo da Silva Pereira (Feb 13)
- RE: S4T4N1C Web Defacement Dan Perez (Feb 13)