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Re: Interesting packets


From: "Marcelo Barbosa Lima" <mb_lima () uol com br>
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 21:28:58 -0300

Sorry, but I think that I did not understand what you said in your answer.
Really ICMP has many types, but ICMP is encapsulated in IP datagrams.
TransportĀ“s headers (UDP or TCP) are included in ICMP error messages. This
traffic seems for me how one more trojan or DDoS agent. Generally, this
malicious softwares use UDP to communicate with remote server.

ICMP have many types some of them are UDP packets (refer to TCP/IP II ),
to
fully understand the traffic flow run "soop -v -d  interface_name
68.60.32.5" if u using Unix box or any packet capture tool on NT to
capture
the payload on ur sensor that it detected this alert.

Most likely and this just a guess with looking to ur captured traffic u'll
find that ur host x.x.x.4 tried trace route or (some other type of ICMP
packets that use UDP) to 68.60.32.5 and when this host or the
router/firewall in front of it tried to reply to ur host ur firewall
generated the "ICMP Destination Unreachable(Communication Administratively
Prohibited)"

This is a just rough explanation with me knowing where ur sensor is
located

Best Regards

Ohanes Semerjian
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jeremy Junginger [mailto:jjunginger () usbestcrm com]
Sent: Tuesday, 17 September 2002 1:31
To: incidents () securityfocus com
Subject: Interesting packets


I've been tracing these packets for a while now, and am having a bit of
trouble deciphering what's happening.  It appears that this host is
attempting to contact an external host over udp port 8197 where the
firewall blocks it.  Interesting points are:

It looks like host x.x.x.4 is initiating a udp session with 68.60.32.5
over port 8197.
We block this port with egress filtering at the firewall, as it is not a
dataflow we utilize in our production systems.
Anybody deciphered similar alerts?


Generated by ACID v0.9.6b21 on Mon September 16, 2002 08:02:58

------------------------------------------------------------------------
------
#(1 - 8399) [2002-09-16 06:50:18]  ICMP Destination Unreachable
(Communication Administratively Prohibited)
IPv4: 68.60.32.249 -> x.x.x.4
      hlen=5 TOS=0 dlen=56 ID=2147 flags=0 offset=0 TTL=241 chksum=31000
ICMP: type=Destination Unreachable code=Packet Filtered
      checksum=42554 id= seq=
Payload:  length = 32

000 : 00 00 00 00 45 00 00 3D 78 26 00 00 70 11 8B 34   ....E..=x&..p..4
010 : AC 10 37 04 44 3C 20 05 0F 72 00 35 00 29 46 E8   ..7.D< ..r.5.)F.

Original IP information:  UDP x.x.x.4 x.xyz.com 17468 68.60.32.5
ns01.pntiac01.mi.comcast.net 8197

-Jeremy


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