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FW: How to cope with, uhm, "mentally challenged" abuse personnel?
From: Tyrannis Von Nettesheim <tyrannis () WWC COM>
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:25:55 -0500
I think this is in the realm of "plausible deniability" for the corporate types at the ISP, or generically any business. Usually when an event of massive scope has occurred, it takes some time for it to "float" up to corporate levels, and their default action from what I've perceived/seen is to head for corporate counsel and get some legal advice, as well as start crafting e-mails, press releases, etc., etc. should that be necessary. While we, stewards of security sanity, reward swift exchanges of information, the general investment public doesn't because they don't know what we know - the free and open exchange of verifiable information between verifiable entities swats problems faster than anything. It's a culture thing. *shrugs* -----Original Message----- From: Blake Frantz [mailto:blake () MC NET] Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 4:08 PM Subject: Re: How to cope with, uhm, "mentally challenged" abuse personnel? Hello, I have experienced a similar situation with UU.net. A UU.net *router* was trying to communicate with one of our core routers via TCP on a wide range of arbitraty ports. When asked, UU.net responded with "The type of internet traffic you describe appears to be of normal origin." and referred me to RFC 792 (ICMP) - I almost fell off my chair. None the less, after we recieved their response the activity stopped. Purhaps this is the same in your case, a first level abuse manager sends out a generic email to passify wouldbe admins and escalates the incident. Just a thought. \
Current thread:
- How to cope with, uhm, "mentally challenged" abuse personnel? Ralf G. R. Bergs (Mar 03)
- Re: How to cope with, uhm, "mentally challenged" abuse personnel? Utopian Admin (Mar 03)
- Re: How to cope with, uhm, "mentally challenged" abuse personnel? Ralf G. R. Bergs (Mar 06)
- Re: How to cope with, uhm, "mentally challenged" abuse personnel? Blake Frantz (Mar 03)
- Re: How to cope with, uhm, "mentally challenged" abuse personnel? Ralf G. R. Bergs (Mar 06)
- Re: How to cope with, uhm, "mentally challenged" abuse personnel? Gary Maltzen (Mar 04)
- Re: How to cope with, uhm, "mentally challenged" abuse personnel? Ralf G. R. Bergs (Mar 06)
- Re: How to cope with, uhm, "mentally challenged" abuse personnel? Nicholas Bachmann (Mar 06)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- FW: How to cope with, uhm, "mentally challenged" abuse personnel? Tyrannis Von Nettesheim (Mar 05)
- Re: How to cope with, uhm, "mentally challenged" abuse personnel? Ralf G. R. Bergs (Mar 06)
- Re: How to cope with, uhm, "mentally challenged" abuse personnel? Travis Pugh (Mar 06)
- Re: How to cope with, uhm, "mentally challenged" abuse personnel? Justin Shore (Mar 06)
- Re: How to cope with, uhm, "mentally challenged" abuse personnel? Utopian Admin (Mar 03)