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Re: Flash Worms
From: Stuart Staniford <stuart () silicondefense com>
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 11:57:15 -0700
Michal Zalewski wrote:
On Fri, 17 Aug 2001, Stuart Staniford wrote:Agreed - we're only talking about saturation of the hosts that can actually be attacked from the Internet, are vulnerable to whatever exploit the worm has, are currently connected to the Internet, and have publically routable static Internet addresses. What we're arguing is that the worm can reach all of those hosts that it's going to reach in O(30secs) if it's small and uses the kind of strategies we discuss.There's a huge network in Poland, called Polpak, connected to the Internet. It makes a part of it. It connects dozens, if not hundreds, of thousands of computers. It has very centralized structure, built around the capital of this country. It has very poor international uplinks, heavily overloaded, with packet loss ratio around 50-60% in peak hours. You can't ignore networks like that around the globe, they make a significant percent of overall host count. The Internet is not made only of US hosts in metropolitan areas, that can interact and exchange information in fast and reliable way.
You are right. Hosts on networks that are so poorly connected will not get infected very quickly. However, it may be much quicker than you think because the flash worm can use address space locality. Once a worm or two is into that section of the address space, most of the rest of it will be compromised quickly. Stuart. -- Stuart Staniford --- President --- Silicon Defense ** Silicon Defense: Technical Support for Snort ** mailto:stuart () silicondefense com http://www.silicondefense.com/ (707) 445-4355 x 16 (707) 445-4222 (FAX) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided by the SecurityFocus ARIS analyzer service. For more information on this free incident handling, management and tracking system please see: http://aris.securityfocus.com
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