Re: Risk analysis

[Jeffrey Walton <noloader () gmail com>]

On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 10:16 AM,  <Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu> wrote:
> On Sat, 11 May 2013 19:04:03 -0400, Jeffrey Walton said:
> > When I lived in Georgia in the 1990s, one of its counties passed an
> > ordnance requiring all citizens own a gun. Around the same time, a
> > county in Chicago passed a ordinance banning guns. Do you want to take
> > a guess at which county experienced an increase in crime, and which
> > experienced a decrease?
>
> Multiple studies have shows that access to guns is only one very small part
> of what drives the *reported* crime rate. Economic and educational conditions
> in the area, and the resident's relationship with the police, have a much
> higher impact on how many crimes get committed, and how many get reported.
>
> > Anyway, the debate is not a religion to me as long as I can own one to
> > rise against the government if needed.
>
> Oh, bother.  If more of the "rise against the government if needed" crowd
> was realistic about that, we could actually have rational discussions about
> gun control.
Sometimes the threat of action is more compelling than the act  itself
(Sun Tzu).

> There's a whole lot more to doing an effective resistance than just "I have
> a gun".  But except for some militia groups that actually train, none of
> the "rise against the government" crowd want to admit it.
Yes, you're right. There are better ways to approach that problem
(http://www.aeinstein.org).

> Remember - if it comes to that, you're going against people who do that
> shit day in day out for a living.  And yet, mandating a tour in the National
> Guard so people have seen it and learned it *before* the bullets start flying
> doesn't go over very well with the gun-rights crew (who see any sort of
> mandatory training requirement as an infringement).
Right. There are better ways to approach that problem
(http://www.aeinstein.org).

The citizens, the military, and law enforcement are all victims of the
same hypocrisy. There's no reason that they should fight amongst
themselves.

Jeff
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