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Re: Risk analysis
From: "Marc" <marc () marcd org>
Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 10:52:48 -0400
The error in the 'science', IMHO, is the blaming an inanimate object for the actions of people. By definition, an inanimate object is just that. This is like blaming the pen for bad legislation. One of the founding tenants of science is 'root cause'. At this point, gun safety has been reduced to an emotional subject, nothing more. The popular discussion has nothing to do with the root cause of the issues around accidents or that cause someone think it's OK to kill. To put things a little more into perspective, about 292 people are killed every year by people backing over them with their SUVs (103 of these annual fatalities are children) - another 18,000 are injured - every year. We could discuss the many perceived evils of SUVs, including their implication in the deaths of so many of our innocent children and other loved ones every year (i.e. make it an emotional discussion), but instead of banning them under emotional pretext, educational programs are undertaken, and efforts are undertaken (pardon the pun) to make them easier to operate safely, such as backup cameras, sensors, and reduced blind spots: http://www.iihs.org/research/qanda/backover.aspx http://www.nhtsa.gov/Driving+Safety/Child+Safety/Keeping+Kids+Safe+-+Backove r Once the discussion gets to root cause, there will be progress in not only firearms safety, but several other related areas. Until then, I believe we are wasting time and energy, not to mention money. Just my $0.02.
-----Original Message----- From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org] On Behalf Of Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 17:23 To: funsec () linuxbox org Subject: [funsec] Risk analysis Oh, hey, what do you know? There's actually scientific data showing that having lots of guns around is a bad idea ... http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=gun-science-proves- arming- untrained-citizens-bad-idea or http://links.email.scientificamerican.com/ctt?kn=59&ms=NDE0ODIzNDQS1&r=N TY1MTYxMjE0MQS2&b=2&j=MTg3NjgxMjA4S0&mt=1&rt=0 ====================== (quote inserted randomly by Pegasus Mailer) rslade () vcn bc ca slade () victoria tc ca rslade () computercrime org A scholar is just a library's way of making another library. - Daniel Dennett victoria.tc.ca/techrev/rms.htm http://www.infosecbc.org/links http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.php/archives/author/p1/ http://twitter.com/rslade _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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